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After a digression or two over the last few days into other matters, its time to get back to a few more local issues - which inevitably means heading back into the weird world of Birmingham City Council Deputy Leader and Lib Dem PPC for Birmingham Yardley, John Hemming.
In my temporary absence from the fray, PoliticalHack has done a stirling job of picking up the gauntlet, finally wringing from John, after a mere seven days, that the Birmingham Lib Dems were, indeed, following the national party’s orders and handling postal vote applications on behalf of Lib Dem voters - not that John seems particularly happy to have had to admit that publicly.
The shabby opportunism of efforts by John and the Birmingham Lib Dem High Command to pin the blame on the DTI for the demise of Rover rather than on his former friends, the ‘Phoenix Four’ seems to have abated somewhat in the face of the harsh reality that even Digby Jones of the CBI, a man who should know a bit about running a business, doesn’t buy his version of events either, while Annil Chandra, the former Rover Project Manager who purports to be leading efforts to set up a worker’s cooperative at Longbridge and the only other person to repeat, publicly, John’s claim that ‘it was all the DTI’s fault’ appears to have gone very quiet indeed since being ‘outed’ as one of the Lib Dem’s candidates in Bourneville in last year’s Birmingham City Council elections.
But to further back up the truth that Rover was in serious trouble long before the government got involved, its worth reading this article from the Birmingham Evening Mail which shows that Land Rover, which is still using the Rover K series engine in its Freelander models, was stockpiling engines for several months before Rover crashed in order to tide it over until it was able to switch to a new engine from Ford - now why, John, do you suppose they were doing that if not because they were well aware that Rover was ‘living on borrowed time’ under Phoenix and, in that case, how are you going to blame the DTI for that?
In fact I’ve unconfirmed reports which suggest that SAIC has already sold off a package of 45 different rights to intellectual property which was formerly owned by Rover and sold to the Chinese around 5 months ago, long before things finally went pear-shaped, and that this rights sale was in preparation for the production of wholly Chinese-manufactured cars in the near future, based on the right sold by Rover.
More and more it looks like SAIC led Rover right up the garden path until it got what it really wanted - the ability to build its own cars for the Chinese domestic market - and then walked away without ever having any real intention of concluding a deal which would have kept production going at Longbridge.
There’s one last bit of catching up to do with John, before moving on to something fresh, and that’s in relation to postal votes.
The last couple of posts on his blog appear to show John taking a remarkably studious interest in the number, extent and, in some instances, detail of applications for postal votes in Birmingham for the upcomning election. In fact reading his comments one would be forgiven for thinking that he has been, personally reviewing applications…
…in which case I’m sure he won’t mind publicly clarifying a number of points.
1. In what capacity is he obtaining all this information about applications for postal votes in Birmingham - as a parliamentary candidate or as the Deputy Leader of Birmingham City Council.
2. If he is obtaining this information as a candidate can we be assured that any other Parliamentary candidate can obtain the same information, by the same means and on the same basis as John.
3. If he isn’t acting as a candidate in this, but obtaining this information by virtue of his position as a local Councillor and Deputy Leader of the Council, is that ethical? Is there not an inherent conflict of interest? In fact would that not be a matter for either the Electoral Commission or the Standard’s Board? I ask because because what John appears to be doing is certainly not mentioned in or covered explicitly by the Electoral Commissions revised code of practice, so I was wondering whether this was just something that candidates are allowed to do anyway, in the absence of explicit regulations, or whether it something he’s just been doing of his own bat.
4. Is he personally looking at applications and in which case; is he looking at all of them, some of them - and if so, how is he deciding which one’s merit his attention - or none of them and simply relying on reports from Birmingham’s interim Returning Officer?
5. And equally, if he getting reports from the Returning Officer, is that as a candidate or a councillor?
UPDATE
Just confirmed that candidates are allowed access to a list of applicants for postal vote, but not, as I understand it, the applications themselves - John’s first post on this subject does veer towards this how3ever his second is rather more ambiguous and open to misinterpretation.
THe question above are no longer relevant in light of that information - unless John is doing something very, very stupid indeed.
Moving on to his plans for polling day itself:
6. What assurances is John prepared to give that there will not be any incidents of the kind referred to during the course of the Election Court hearing in relation to last year’s Council elections, which resulted in staff at at least one polling station lodging complaints against his polling agents in regards to their conduct, which the complainants appeared to consider intimidatory.
7. Also, with regards to his comment that the Lib Dems will have ’some patrols to follow the personators from polling station to polling station so we can collect evidence as to who is personating’ - is that, in the first instance, not the job of the Police? In fact has John even informed the Police of his plans and obtained their opinion/blessing for his plans?
8. In fact could this not be considered a rather intimidatory statement, not only to possible personators but also to legitimate voters who are intended to nothing more that exercise their lawful right ot vote but may then, as a result, find themselves being followed on leaving the polling stations by what amount to little more than a private vigilante police force under the command of a candidate?
9. Could some legitimate voters not find these statements so intimidatory that it could succeed in dissuading them from exercising their democritic right to vote altogether? And if so, would this note, itself, be in breach of election law and a criminal offence? One thing that is clear is that if these patrols do happen it won’t be on the basis that those carrying out these activities will be identifying themselves clearly as working for the Lib Dems, in which case is there not also the risk that this might lead to, or be interpreted as harrassment?
10. And again, on the subject of ‘clearance’, has John seen fit to make the Electoral Commission aware of these plans and seek guidance both on their legitimacy - or otherwise - and if they so and this is permissable, has he taken further guidance from the Electoral Commission regarding the conduct of the these patrols and what action they may, or may not, legitimately take, if any?
And now, my final question and one I can answer immediately…
Knowing full well that John visits this blog on a fairly regular basis - its I rare I mention his name without him turning up within a few hours - has he got around 24 hours to formulate a satisfactory response to these question before I start asking some questions of my own - questions I might add that will directed to WEst Midlands Police and the Electoral Commission, just to satisfy myself that everything that appears to be about to go on polling day, is actually within the rules, regualations and code of conduct?
The answer to that last question is - you betcha - after all, we wouldn’t wish to see an overzealous parliamentary candidate disqualified from the election for breaking the rules or another messy round of election courts, would we?
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John: This blog has RSS feeds in 3 different versions 0.92, 1.0 and 2.0 plus an Atom feed and they all work just fine - the only thing they don’t do is automatically concatanate comments with posts.
I’ve checked using the Sage RRS reading add on in Firfox and it works just fine.
As for the ‘only people breaking the law need to be concerned’ line, that is utter rubbish.
Most of the recent problems with electoral fraud have taken place in and around Muslim communities.
Now unlike you or most of your party I’ve worked closely with and within a number of Muslim communities, often at the sharp end of internal community relations and that includes working to mediate disputes. I not only have a solid understanding of the prevalent social and cultural mores of these communities but also know first hand how quickly even minor disaffection can escalate into a serious problem - one sadly which carries with a real risk of violence.
In short, unless you are very careful indeed you run the risk of the polling day vigilantes creating problems that you couldn’t possibly envisage.
As for the electoral commission’s views on vigilance - that’s whay polling agennts are for and why they are regulated by the code of conduct. What you are talking about in suggesting that some people may be followed in the street is wholly unregulated and outside the electoral commissions guidance.
In the circumstance, I’m sure you’ll understand that I will be contacting the Electoral Commission for clarification of these matters and, if possible, to ask that some further guidance be issued to take into account what you’re proposing to do.
Similarly, I think it only prudent to draw the attention of the Community Policing section of West Midlands Police as, if you go ahead with your patrols there is a genuine risk that they could give rise to public order problems if they mishandle a situation and I would strongly suggest that you prepare a full and detailed list of where you expect to be running patrols ready for their call as I’m sure they’ll want to know where, exactly, the possible flashpoints may arise.
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Please understand that because your blog does not provide an RSS feed I do not review your blog unless I have a bit of spare time (eg 9.30pm on a Saturday Night). If your blog had an RSS feed then I would review it daily. If you want me to answer questions on a timely basis try email.
Comment by John Hemming 04.30.05 @ 9:40 pm1, 2, 3, 4, 5. SI 2001/341 allows all candidates access to lists of postal votes. Because I am a tecchie I collate all the information for the city and pass it to our candidates/agents. My role in this is sort of as City Agent.
6. Mrs Mir had a row with one Presiding Officer who did not understand what polling agents are. I raised this issue specifically with the returning officer last week to ask that they explain what Polling Agents are and don’t create this difficulty in the future.
7. You should read the report of the Commissioner. Political parties have a clear responsibility for identifying and tracking personation (cf Polling Agents). The police do not need to give their blessing, but I do talk to the head of the Fraud Squad frequently.
8. Only people voting more than once witout a valid proxy need to be concerned.
9. Only people breaking the law need to be concerned.
10. This is nothing to do with the Electoral Commission.
>Knowing full well that John visits this blog on a fairly regular basis
Given that the blog has no RSS feed it has gone off my “regular visiting” list. If you want questions answered ask me directly.