Liberty Central
Tuesday February 21st 2006, 1:23 pm
Filed under: Politics, Civil Liberties

The word’s spreading nicely and, as I expected, throwing up a few anxieties and misconceptions along the way that require a little clarification.

The first thing to be clearly understood by everyone is that what we have here in terms of looking at the possibilities of a cross-party coalition is very new and, at this stage, very loose and unformed even down to our conceptions of the nature of liberty itself to some small extent.

What we are trying to capture here is a mood that’s been growing amongst bloggers in the UK over the last year, one that recognises certain common interests and values which cut across traditional party lines and the old left-right divide.

There are limits and boundaries, however, to the extent of that common ground - in any project which seeks to bring left and right together in a common cause there will be differences of opinion, some of which are going to be very deep seated and intractable.

Which is absolutely fine as what we’re about is a coalition with a specific purpose not the creation of a new libertarian political party - our aim is not to take power and become a government, merely to reconfigure the parameters of power, the social contract and the relationship between the citizen and the state in such a way as to secure our essential liberties.

To do this, at this early stage, we must be as open as possible and exclude nothing from consideration at the outset.

Ideas on the Bill of Rights are already emerging that will certainly gain support across the whole coalition - who could argue with the aim of securing the constitutional entrenchment of habeas corpus.

Other ideas will emerge that are less likely to garner such wide support, ones which some will see as going too far down a particular political route.

At this early stage we should not exclude anything from inclusion in the initial debate, even if our instincts are against it from the outset.

We are not going to agree on everything, but that does not mean that we should be excluding things from discussion at the outset or drawing hard and fast lines in the sand straight away. We need to collect and collate all the various ideas, views and opinions from all sides of the debate to begin with. Once we have that then the debate starts in earnest and we begin to winnow out ideas on which we cannot form a concensus, leaving us with a core package of proposals on which we can agree.

No one is being asked to compromise here, merely to be a little bit patient until we have everything on the table to sift through.

The social contract, which lies at the heart of what we’re doing here, functions at many different levels and in many different contexts. Ideas that may not work as global provisions and provoke an instinctive dislike in some quarters may look very different which applied in a limited form and a specific context. For example, it has been suggested that we look at Colorado’s TABOR provisions, which, having looked them up as this was a new one on me, are a ‘Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights’, which is defined as follows:

TABOR is a set of constitutional provisions Colorado voters adopted in 1992 to limit revenue growth for state and local governments in Colorado and to require that any tax increase in any state or local government (counties, cities, towns, school districts and special districts) must be approved by the voters of the affected government.

My instinctive reaction to this is that it looks a little too severe and constraining a regime to be workable at national level, at least for the time being, given the complexity of the national finances, but that it may well have merits when it comes to looking at local government. To be honest I’m not economically literate enough to judge such an idea at the moment but pretty sanguine about throwing the idea into the pot for discussion - for one thing its not so very far removed from provisions put in place by the democratic socialist Worker’s Party-led civic government of Puerto Allegre (Brazil) in which city budgets, revenue and expenditure have to be approved annually by its citizens and is, therefore, another example of the left and right can arrive at similar ideas by very different routes.

The fact that I have doubts about TABOR at this stage does not mean I want to exclude it from consideration - it’s there to be looked at and debated as far as I’m concerned and there are bloggers out there on the left and right, like Chris Dillow, Wat Tyler and Tim Worstall who’re far better placed than I am to look over something like TABOR and clarify what it would mean in practical economic terms and give a view on whether they see scope for its inclusion in the final package - if it can be agreed on by all sides.

TABOR, and many other ideas beside, may not ultimately gather the consensual support necessary for them to be included as a ‘definite’ in the reform package but can could certainly be highlighted as options for further debate - that’s the beauty of democracy, we can put different options on the table for consideration without compromising core values and the common ground we discover as we work on this.

By the same token I don’t expect that everyone who is interested in what we’re trying to do will necesssarily be interested in every aspect of the debate - there will be generalists who look at the big picture and specialists whose interests run more towards specific issues and (hopefully) some will bring specialist knowledge to the table with them as well as their opinions and views.

By definition, this project will have a somewhat anarchic streak running through it, in the philosophical sense. This is not about leaders and followers it about common ground and consensus amongst equals. No one is, or will be asked to sign up to something they feel they cannot support nor are they to be asked to give up their core political beliefs and loyalities in order work on this. Dissent is very much part of the overall process, part of process of winnowing out of ideas from all strands of political thought until we reach core consensus positions that we can all support - by its very nature such a process sets boundaries for the project which will limit how far it can go in any one political direction and will keep us focussed on the core issues.

This isn’t going to be like a political party, with an official party line and a manifesto and an expectation that everyone toes the line irrespective of thir personal beliefs and values. Its a debate with points of consensus and points of disagreement expressed openly, honestly and, I hope, rationally.

Call me optomistic and idealistic if you will but after a year of blogging and interacting with people from across all traditional political camps, I happen to believe that, whatever our differences, we can have this debate and arrive at a core agenda for consititutional reform with broad cross-party support.

We can do this for two main reasons - first, because at the heart of this are issues we care about deeply and on which there is common ground but also because we’re British and one of the defining characteristics of the British blogosphere - and one which separates us from many of our cousins over the pond - is our ability to be reasonably civilised about our disagreements and not automatically adopt a contrary position simply because some belongs to an different political ‘power-unit’ to our own.

That brings me to the one big misconception that is emerging, in relation to the ‘Anyone But Labour’ tactical voting campaign.

This is NOT the first stage of Liberty Central, it is a parallel development that has emerged out of the same ‘mood’ of opposition to the present govenment’s authoritarian legislative programme that also gives impetus to the Liberty Central project.

Some of those who are working on this project are working on that campaign, some aren’t - its not an ‘official sanctioned’ offshoot of Liberty Central mainly because we’re not in business of officially sanctioning anything or sanctioning/constraining anyone in their actions.

It’s worth noting that we’ll be supporting other existing projects with aims that coincide with our own; whether that’s Charter 88, Liberty, Make My Vote Count, Elect the Lords or NO2ID. We’ll also welcome input from those campaigns and others like the Campaign for an English Parliament, for example, and any support they may feel they can offer.

Liberty Central is, quite deliberately, a pluralist project which will reflect a wide range of differing views and opinions - much of the heart of the project lies in ‘having the debate’, especially those debates that the political elite would much rather we didn’t have.

There is no controlling mechanism here and if people want to work together in their own campaigns that’s up to them. That’s, as I see it, entirely consistant with a libertarian philosophical outlook as well as a recognition of the fact that trying to curb such things would not only be beyond our core principles but rather like trying to herd cats - it’s a non-starter however you look at it.

Liberty Central’s main electoral focus is on the next general election, which is at least three and maybe four years away short of unforseen and dramatic circumstances. What we’re trying to put together can only be enacted, to begin with, at Westminster and its there that Liberty Central must focus its efforts and attention - if people want to organise and take action in the meantime in local or European elections that’s their choice and they’re free to make it. Liberty Central will certainly report on and highlight such activities and offer a platform to those engaging in them to make their case for what they’re doing, but such things remain separate and distinct from the portal itself and from the core project of pulling together a new constitutional settlement.

In terms of our relationship with political parties and individual MPs, the way I personally see it is that we will be putting forward an agenda for change and it is for each party, each MP and each Parliamentary Candidate, when the time comes, to decide how to respond to that agenda.

However, we should take nothing on blind trust. The view we may take of those seeking office at that time will look not just at what they say in their election briefings and manifestos but at the evidence of their track record - whether they have practiced what they preach.

Liberty Central will certainly work to collate such information and make it available to people visiting the site. We may even go further is some instances and make voting recommendations based on the information to hand, on a seat by seat basis, but we have no control over how people choose to vote, nor indeed control over how the main political parties choose to campaign or whether they, either nationally or locally, engage in coalition-based activities.

Like it or not, under the present electoral system, tactical voting is a legimitate ‘weapon’ and people will use it, whether they do so or in an organised way or merely individually and based on their own judgment of the situation as they sit it when the time comes. Liberty Central is not about tactical voting but neither will ignore it as a option for future action - it all depends on how things develop over the next three years.

As a purely personal view, I think the best outcome for what we are seeking to achieve would not necessarily be a hung parliament with no overall control but one in which the number of votes cast at the general election is so low as to challenge the idea that any party - or coalition of parties - has a mandate to govern. Of course, delivering that would be no mean feat and realisitically is problably unachievable as to really make it stick it needs more than just people not voting, which can be written off to apathy, but a large body of people deliberately entering spoiled ballot papers, which would be difficult to organise and execute.

All that is, however by the by. For now what’s needs to be understood is that Liberty Central’s focus is on constitutional change and not tactical voting, at least for the time being - what people working in the coalition do on their own time and under their own steam is their business and others working on this project are free to support other campaigns - or not - as they wish.

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Totally agree about turnout. The ideal situation would be one in which a large percentage of people actively expressed their dissatisfaction with the current political system. Extremely difficult, as you say, but it might be something to think about at some point.

But, as you also point out, it all depends on how things develop over the next three years. I agree with the central point that Liberty Central should resist becoming an anti-Blair, anti-Labour campaign group. It should be very much focused on what it is for rather than what it is against.

For now what’s needs to be understood is that Liberty Central’s focus is on constitutional change and not tactical voting
On this, I do wonder if one is possible without the other. This is probably why many people (guilty as charged) tend to conflate the two issues.

That said, I’ll reiterate that I basically agree. Constitutional change is what we want and should be our primary focus. Tactical voting is just a potential, well, tactic, not a goal.

Comment by Garry 02.21.06 @ 3:12 pm

Party politics should be kept well out of this idea, otherwise the whole point of a coalition falls apart…

Comment by Katherine 02.21.06 @ 3:54 pm

On the idea of -

Liberty Central will certainly work to collate such information and make it available to people visiting the site. We may even go further is some instances and make voting recommendations based on the information to hand, on a seat by seat basis, but we have no control over how people choose to vote, nor indeed control over how the main political parties choose to campaign or whether they, either nationally or locally, engage in coalition-based activities.

Could this be technically arranged with the MySociety boys over at http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/? Just thinking of ways to facilatate the technical stuff.

Comment by Michael Gordon 02.21.06 @ 5:06 pm

I can see what the commenters above are getting at. I just wonder if it will be possible for the politicians to ignore the whole movement if they don’t fear for their political futures.

Perhaps the happy medium is “Sign up for the Constitution or we’re coming to get you”. This seems to me to be an admirably even-handed, equal opportunities and non-partisan approach to the project.

Comment by Bishop Hill 02.21.06 @ 7:03 pm

BH, I tend to agree with that. Politicians have a habit of ignoring mass movements if their jobs are not at risk. We’re probably going to need to deploy carrots and sticks on politicians before the next general election if the coalition is going to have a significant impact. As such, I’d be in favour of active campaigning for politicians who support the constitution and active campaigning against those who do not at the next GE - pretty much exactly what you suggest in fact.

We need to get the core aims sorted out first though. I think that was Unity’s point. It was certainly what I was trying to get at.

Comment by Garry 02.21.06 @ 7:53 pm

As a natural born dissenter I cannot think of a greater incentive to tell some jumped up jerk to fuck right off than the notion that I “Sign up for the Constitution or we’re coming to get you”.

So… fuck right off!

Comment by Bob Piper 02.21.06 @ 8:40 pm

Pretty much agree, completely. Especially with BH’s comment (again).

We’ll need to be able to make an electoral impact if it’s needed, but more important to demonstrate the possiblity. A “none of the above” option if none of the candidates back it would be good, but I don’t want to encourage people not to vote, in any way, I don’t think it works.

More important to get people motivated to vote. It’s at times like this I lament the loss of people like Robin Cook.

Comment by MatGB 02.21.06 @ 8:45 pm

Have I upset you Bob?

Comment by Bishop Hill 02.21.06 @ 9:29 pm

Robin would be touched, MatGB. Wasn’t he the Labour Foreign Secretary who oversaw the sanctions which killed so many Iraqi children? Still, I suppose that’s OK. Nothing like death for reviving an image eh?

No, bishop, not in the slightest. Now fuck off!

Comment by Bob Piper 02.21.06 @ 9:42 pm

Well, technically, yes Bob, he inherited a crap regime and was pretty much forced to live with it.

But he was also genuinely committed to constitutional reform and democratisation, the intro he wrote to the LAbour Campaign for Electoral reform book that Linton/Southcott wrote was excellent and right on the button. Good book that, was very grateful to Mary for giving me a copy, some of the numbers were very interesting.

Have always thought Cook to be a decent bloke, overall. Office holding forces compromises, as I’m sure you’re aware, but a resignation on principle was just the icing on the cake. Ah well.

So, what do you think of the above post? Apart from Bishop’s comment?

Comment by MatGB 02.21.06 @ 11:45 pm

You should hook up with the folks at ORG.

Comment by John Lilburne 02.22.06 @ 8:35 am

MatGB, I don’t have any problem with the notion of a campaigning group that works for constitutional reform. Tony Benn wrote a book in the early 1990’s ‘A new constitution for Britain’ which argued for many of the thinks Unity writes about here (although TB did not agree that PR with its deals done behind the electorate’s back was ‘democratising’ government) but if you decide to try to influence people to vote against Labour, particularly if it leads to Tories winning, or even the BNP in this part of the world, then as far as the Labour movement is concerned, you’re dead in the water.

Comment by Bob Piper 02.22.06 @ 8:37 am

And now with added URI:

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/

Comment by John Lilburne 02.22.06 @ 8:39 am

What might be useful at the election would be to produce a report card for each MP on how they’ve voted on civil liberties issues, in the same way a lot of the American lobby groups do for Senators and Representatives, which then lets people see who at a glance who are the best at voting in favour of liberty and who are the worst.

Comment by Nick 02.22.06 @ 10:03 am

Bob:

Looks like Tony may have changed his mind - this from Make My Votes Count:

“Yes, it is official. The great man himself supports STV. Last night one of the foremost political minds and communicators of the last fifty years came out publicly in support of voting reform for Westminster. In response to a question on the subject, he boldy stated “I am in favour of STV … the right to a preferential vote would go a long way to improving our democracy.” Thus spoke Tony Benn at a meeting at UCL’s Bloomsbury Theatre.

Tony’s passion, wit and honest approach kept the audience rapt for over two hours. He started with a 40 minute tour de force exploration of the state of British democracy and its historical context. The bulk of the time though was taken up with him answering question after question from the audience.

Among the many pearls of wisdom, Tony made some very telling comments about voting and political participation. He - rightly - believes that voting is about power, and that unless politicians can be properly held accountable by their electorate, then that relationship is fundamentally imbalanced. He suggests that we should all ask five questions of anyone in a position of power; the final question being “how can I get rid of them?” While all MPs could respond with a pat “you can vote me out at election time”, this is simply not the practical reality for many people. Blaenau Gwent in 2005, Wyre Forest in 2001, Tatton in 1997 are the exceptions that prove the rule: that outside of marginal constituencies it is very difficult to unseat an incumbent MP. “

I must admit, one of things I would love to do is ask Tony to write something for Liberty Central on constitutional reform - or at least get his permission to reprint some of his existing work on the subject - not only because he much to offer to inform the debate but also because I think it would dispell some of the negativity that surrounds him in some quarters if people could see for themselves where he stands on consitutional reform rather than get their information second-hand from the Murdoch press.

I’ve also got my thinking head on now and fully appreciate your point on patronage - not the Lords but the appointment of Ministers using the royal prerogative.

Yes, this is an important issue which goes to the heart of the debate around the separation of powers. More than one observer has noted the development of a de facto presidency without this being accompanied by the safeguards of a consitutional separation between executive and legislature, a view I’m inclined to see as having much validity.

Needs thinking through but my initial inclination is that we should consider a complete separation as an option - if the PM wants presidential-style authority then let him have it but at the price of strict separation from the legislature, with all the necessary safeguards, and direct elections for PM.

There may be other routes as well, there are pros and cons on all sides - but you’re right the power of patrinage cannot be left unchecked.

Comment by Unity 02.22.06 @ 10:38 am



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