Does anyone know whether idiocy is a transmissable illness, because it seems to be catching in a big way in some circles.

Flag-burning law plan criticised

Human rights groups have opposed a plan by police chiefs to make flag-burning by protesters a new criminal offence.

No-o-o-o Shit!

The Liberal Democrats and Liberty said new legislation was unnecessary because police had powers to tackle incitement.

Since when did that stop the Police asking for more powers and more legislation. They’re absolutely fucking swimming in new laws and new things to arrest people for and now they put on another fucking Oliver Twist act and head off to the Home Office, cap in hand, to say: ‘Please Dr Demento, can we have some more…?

I’ve got a better idea, here. Why not just stick with the laws you’ve already fucking got and try enforcing those for a bit and see how they go before trying to stick your noses back in the

Scotland Yard has drawn up proposals to submit to the Attorney General because of a belief the UK has become a soft touch in dealing with extremists.

So hang on, the Police want new laws because of a ‘belief’ that the UK has become soft touch - whose belief would that happen to be? Mad Mel’s?

The plans, backed by Labour MP Shahid Malik, would also ban protesters from hiding their faces from police.

Oh boy, this is now getting fucking surreal. They want to ban protestors from hiding their faces from police?

Anything else you’d like while we’re on, lads?

You want everyone to have their national insurance number tattooed onto their foreheads and required to wear a placard round their necks with the name, address and telephone number on it? Or should we all start submitting DNA samples to the police before we’re allowed to go on a protest march.

You ever get the feeling that is all done to a pissed-up senior copper falling asleep halfway through watching V for Vendetta only then to wake up just before the end and shit himself at the sight of all those people in Guy Fawkes masks - look guys, its a fucking movie… it’s not real okay.

How far does this proposed ban on masks go? Does it only apply to actual physicla masks or would using stage make-up also come under this. If I go out shopping in Birmingham and there’s a march on, do I stand a chance of getting nicked if I’ve taken my six year-old daughter to get her face painted?

But that would not include Muslim women wearing a veil.

Right, lads. We’re to the protest march… No you have all remembered your burkas?

Shami Chakrabarti, Liberty’s director, said: "We will have to look at the detail of these proposals but the police already have wide powers, especially for dealing with people wearing masks.

"I wonder how hard-working officers on the beat today will feel knowing their senior officers are spending so much time dreaming up unnecessary legislation."

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Criminalising flag-burning would be an unacceptable restriction of freedom of expression, said Liberal Democrat MP Evan Harris, a member of the parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights.

"The battle against terrorism and extremism is not a matter of yet more public order offences and it is vital that we preserve free speech where no crime is incited," he said.

Well, I’m glad someone’s realised that.

Public order

The plans have been drawn up by Scotland Yard and submitted to the Attorney General Lord Goldsmith, by Britain’s most senior Muslim police chief, Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur.

Mr Ghaffur, responsible for public order in the capital, said he was concerned the UK had come to be seen at home and abroad as soft on extremist demonstrators.

As opposed to be seen at home and abroad as country on a slow descent into becoming a police state and governed by bunch of utterly illiberal freedom-hating toss-pots.

Just what the fuck is all this supposed to achieve? What? Are you thinking

He said police wanted "a change in the law on the burning of flags - to make that illegal".

Why? For the sake of appearances?

While you’re on, is there anything else you’d like criminalised? Like walking on the cracks in the pavement, perhaps?

Mr Malik, MP for Dewsbury, said burning a flag was clearly an incitement to violence practised by a small number of "thugs" who get to the front of demonstrations.

"They hijack what are very legitimate and peaceful protests.

"Not only do they spoil it, but they have the potential to turn it into something much more sinister."

Ah, poor dears. Fancy having your protest spoiled by some nasty old bastard with a flag and box of fucking matches.

What is the thinking here… that somewhere a would-be terrorist cell might meet up and decide they’d better cancel the Jihad because the government have banned flag-burning.

It’s a piece of fucking cloth, for fuck’s sake. Look, if it bothers you that much, why not just the DTI to change safely laws so that all flags have to made of flame retardant material - it would make about the same amount of fucking sense.

But Massoud Shedjareh, of the Islamic Human Rights’ Commission, said whether it was incitement or not depended on the circumstances, but police already had powers to deal with it.

A Home Office spokeswoman said she was unaware police thought existing powers were inadequate but ministers were ready to listen to any suggestions from officers.

Tell you what… How about you don’t listen to this suggestion and tell the police to fuck off and do their job for a change…

Seriously, if anyone’s actually stupid enought to vote this shit into law then there’s only one appropriate response…

Anyone know where I can get Guy Fawkes masks in bulk?

Last word on this goes to Bill Hicks, who captures the whole subject wonderfully…

Did you watch the flag burning thing? Wasn’t that great man? Boy everybody showed their true colours then didn’t they?….Scary… People just flipped, they reacted like The Supreme Court approved of flag burning, know what I mean?

" Does that mean we have to burn our flags?.. They said that we ha-"… NO NO NO NO NO NO, they didn’t say that. They said that if someone wanted to burn a flag, he perhaps doesn’t need to go to jail for a year…Pretty harsh on their part huh?

"They said we should bur-"…. They didn’t say that, they didn’t say that, they didn’t say that

"Does that mean I have to go and -"….NO NO NO NO NO NO NO… Listen, read , think, calm down, relax, SHUT THE FUCK UP

"Well I don’t get it..I don’t wanna burn my flag"….THEN DOOOOOOOOOOON’T.

People snapped, they were like "Hey buddy, my dad died for that flag"

"Really?…I bought mine…They sell ‘em in K-Mart…"

"yeah..He died in Korea for that flag"

"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea… the world is THAT big man…"

No-one, and I repeat NO-ONE has ever died for a flag. A flag is a piece of cloth, they might have died for freedom, which, by the way, is the freedom to….Burn the.. fucking flag you see??..Burning the flag doesn’t make freedom go away, it’s kinda like Free-dom ok?..ok.

And they’ve had 4 cases in this country’s 200 year history, so it’s not that big an issue. One of the hotter smokescreens they’ve put down the pipe. I don’t wanna burn a flag, but what business is it of mine if you do?

Is it my business if someone wants to..Is it?…NO

Is it my business what other people read or watch on TV? NO IT’S NOT…THANK YOU

You see, when we talk these things through, it becomes a little clearer doesn’t it? That’s called logic and it’ll help us all evolve and get on the fucking spaceships and get outta here. 

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Doing a bit of work on a new web project, on which I’ll have more to say later this week, but one thing I can say from working on some of the design elements is that when it comes to working on graphics for the Internet, our dear old Rose logo is an absolute dog to work with.

I do apologise in advance if that offends anyone who harbours any measure of affection for it, but seriously, in simple design terms, just about everything about is wrong.

The colour scheme - red and green - is one that any sensible designer does their best to avoid for very good reason. Not only is it difficult to come up with shades that work together harmoniously but for the 10% or so of the male population who have red-green colour blindness, the whole colur scheme is entirely meaningless.

And as for the actual image, well one of absolute hallmarks of a well-designed logo is scaleability - do it right and a logo should look as good as a small on-screen image as it does on a large sign in the street. That’s a test that the rose fails and fails miserably - it doesn’t matter what you do, try to bring it down to a size and resultion usable on the Internet and it just looks plain crap, unimposing, weedy and all rather feeble. It’s just not an image you can work with on the net.

So I wonder if its time for a change to something altogether more imposing and solid by way of a logo - the old red flag design may be out of fashion in political terms, but from a design point of view it worked, it had a strong, solid look about it that caught the eye, something the rose distinctly lacks.

Worth thinking about? I think so, just so long as whatever else we do, we don’t hire whoever it was who came up with the Tories new ‘green elephant taking a piss’ design - anything’s got to be better than that.

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Local (i.e. Birmingham) newspaper, The Sunday Mercury, has an interesting tale to tell this week. If its report is to be believed then the BNP is in pretty serious financial trouble having made a loss of around £94,000 in the last year and leaving the party with debts of around £52,000.

To make matters worse for the BNP (and better for everyone else), the report also claims that the BNP’s current financial stem from a combination of a significant drop in party membership and the abandonment of the party by some of its more generous donors.

Information on the precarious state of the BNP’s finances has emerged in the last couple of weeks following an internal party wrangle, which resulted in the expulsion of Sharon Ebanks from the party. Ebanks was, for a short period earlier this year, a Birmingham City Councillor as a result of an error in the count for the Kingstanding ward, which was later overturned by the High Court. No official reason has been given as to why Ebanks was expelled by BNP leader, Nick Griffin, leading to speculation in last week’s Sunday Mercury that it may have been come about as a result of a story in the same paper, earlier this year, which claimed that Ebanks is of mixed-race parentage, an allegation she denies:

Soon after her doomed election, the Sunday Mercury told how she was the daughter of Jamaican-born Radwell and Jean Ebanks, who lived in West Bromwich.

Ms Ebanks admitted she was born during that mixed marriage - a relationship the BNP argues against.

But she claimed she was the result of her mum’s extra-marital fling with ‘a white, Scottish alcoholic who is now dead’.

However, from comments posted by her supporters on the Stormfront forum, it would appear that the real cause of her expulsion from the party lies in a dispute over payment of £5,000 in court costs incurred by Ebanks in trying, unsuccessfully, to hang on to the seat on Birmingham City Council, which the BNP have now refused to pay.

Dear Mrs Ebanks,

I am surprised to have received the attached letter from the treasurer of the BNP.

In view of this refusal to pay, would you please let me have the funds as ordered by the court, and to assist I will extend the time such that I must receive the funds within the next 7 days. If this is not received I will be forced to commence enforcement proceedings for recovery. As this is effectively a court judgment I think it correct to inform you that bankruptcy proceedings is an option that is open in addition to the usual routes for recovery.

Yours sincerely,

Gerald Shamash

PO BOX 158
Deeside
Flintshire
CH5 2WW

Tel 0870 7515296 Mob 07815 146712 BRITAIN FIRST!

E-Mail: [omitted]

Steel & Hamish Solicitors
12 Baylis Road
Waterloo
London
SE1 7AA

19th October 2006

Your Ref: GDS/DTT/30781-0035

Re: Election Petition- Kingstanding Ward, for Sharon Ebanks

Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your letter of the 16th of October. After making enquiries it appears there has been a misunderstanding.

The British National Party has no legal agreement with Sharon Ebanks to meet any payments on her behalf for costs awarded against her by the court. You will have to pursue this matter directly with her.

Yours Faithfully,

John Walker
National Treasurer.

A view of events seemingly verified by Ebanks’ own comments on a different US-based White Supremacist forum:

I’m sacked for speaking out about Lee Barnes and the lack of Transparency regarding the BNP accounts.

I’m sacked for telling John Walker that if the party couldn’t raise £5000 for my costs then serious financial mismanagement must be going on. To which he responded he would "Pull the ****ing rug from underneath me and leave me high and dry"

I am sacked for telling members that I was told by Simon Darby that I shouldn’t push Lee Barnes "Because if the chairman has to choose it will be Barnes"

And, I am apparently being charged with being anti semetic (sic)

Freedom of speech? Having a joke aren’t they?

Simon Darby, is busy telephoning everyone and telling them, but he has yet to phone and tell me.

Ebanks’ expulsion and the BNP’s decision not to cover her court costs has stirred up a fair bit of controversy on Stormfront, with her supporters crying foul and claiming that the BNP had received money from supporters specifically to cover the costs of Ebanks’ case following an appeal for funds, only then to refuse to cover the bill once it came due.

Over several posts her supporters have claimed that Ebanks only went ahead with the case on the advice of the BNP, having been given access to Nick Griffin’s own solicitor, and only after the BNP promised to cover any legal costs, and have reposted an article from the BNP’s own website (filed on 12 May 2006) which appears to confirm that it DID make an appeal on behalf of Ebanks:

12th May 2006

News article filed by BNP news team

With newly elected BNP councillors still being sworn in up and down the country on a daily basis, the results in two wards at least must now be contested in the High Court.

Despite the admission by the council that was their error which denied us a twelfth seat in Barking, electoral law puts the onus on our candidate to lodge a writ in the High Court to get the result declared invalid and overturned in our favour. Once that is done, Jeff Steed will take his seat as the duly elected British National Party candidate for Eastbury ward.

Meanwhile the third placed Labour candidate in Birmingham Kingstanding yesterday lodged £2,500 in the High Court in the Strand in order to bring an action under Section 136 of the Representation of the People Act to have Sharon Ebanks’ stunning BNP victory declared invalid.

Police investigation

We are taking urgent legal advice on this matter, and will do everything possible to resist this attempt to use what we believe to be an unauthorised, illegal and hopelessly compromised behind-closed-doors ‘reassessment’ of the votes cast to rob the people of Kingstanding of their democratically chosen BNP councillor. There is already a police investigation into the whole affair as a result of a complaint lodged by BNP West Midlands regional organiser Simon Darby.

In addition, we are having to take legal advice on the position in two other seats at present: In Heanor, Derbyshire, where ‘recounts’ were held behind our people’s backs, and in Longton North in Stoke, where the marked register (the list which shows how many people voted) indicates that many more electors went to the polls than the final figure of votes turning up in the ballot boxes at the count purports to show.

Who were the ‘missing’ votes for? Where did they go? And can we get the result overturned and a by-election called? Michael Coleman of Stoke BNP is likely to be lodging a formal complaint of theft with the local police later today.

The bill for the preliminary advice on these cases is likely to run to thousands of pounds, on top of which we have to pay both solicitors and barristers to get into court within the next few days to secure or defend the two seats which we won fair and square.

Big league

It is likely that the total bill for all of this over the next few days alone will be up to £10,000 (with the Kingstanding case potentially costing even more) – at a time when we are naturally financially strapped as a result of the big push that won us so many victories on May 4th. The trouble, to be brutally frank, is that the British National Party is now playing in the political Premier League, but still has the resources of a Conference League minnow.

So we’re urging especially our new readers, those who haven’t already bled their bank accounts white to help us win, to dig deep to help us secure the fruits of victory and prevent New Labour scams from further undermining the democracy for which generations of our forebears gave their lives.

UK residents who are on the current electoral register are asked to give as much as possible (there is no upper limit) electronically here [link removed] or by cheque and snail mail to [details omitted].

Civil Liberty

Overseas supporters or those not on the UK register may give a maximum of £200 per year to the party as above, but are not permitted to give more in any calendar year. However, we have been told that the independent organisation Civil Liberty has decided to support Sharon Ebanks as an individual in her fight against New Labour sour grapes and persecution.

As Civil Liberty is not a political party there is no upper limit on the amount that overseas residents can give, so we do hope that a good number of them will take this opportunity to help the Cause. Donations to Civil Liberty can be made here [link removed].

It has been known for years that the left-liberals have increasingly taken to using fraud and underhand sharp practice to maintain their grip on elections in Britain. A successful outcome in even one of these cases, indeed, just the fact that our people are willing and able to bring them, will help to deter such attempts to deny the voters their right to choose in free and fair elections in future. Just at present, nothing is more important, so we thank you for your continued generous support for the fight for freedom.

Civil Liberty, which claims to be an “independent, non-political organisation autonomous of any political party in Britain” is run by Kevin Scott, a former BNP regional organiser, and every single person listed on Civil Liberty’s site as supporting or benefiting from their work is a BNP activist.

Also surfacing on Stormfront as a result of this ‘row’ is this letter from Lee Barnes to the Birmingham Evening Mail, which was also posted on the BNP’s website but has since been removed:

From ; BNP Legal Affairs Unit

Date - 8th May 2006

Sir,

Over the last few days your newspaper has been attacking the BNP Councillor for Kingstanding, Cllr. Sharon Ebanks, for taking up the position in light of a potential legal challenge.

It is our contention that Cllr. Ebanks lawfully won her seat and that the Council are trying to cover up their own incompetence by saying that she did not. The fact that the Returning Officer on the night of the count did not ;

A) make arrangements for counting the votes in the presence of the counting agents during the Fourth recount,

B) in the presence of the counting agents open each ballot box and count and record the number of ballot papers in it in the presence of the candidates or their agents during the Fourth recount,

C) in the presence of the candidate or the agents declare or announce an intention to recount the votes for the Fourth time and finally also carried out the recount in private without their knowledge or agreement,

means that in my legal opinion the election of Cllr Ebanks should stand. Therefore the so called ‘declared’ results of the final Fourth recount is unlawful and not binding in any way on Cllr.Ebanks.

Other potential serious flaws in the count will also be revealed in the event of a court case. The idea that the people of Kingstanding should be happy when their Councillor is chosen in secret for them by an employee of Birmingham Council rather than through the ballot box is a total denial of their democratic rights.

May I also point out the result of your own opinion poll " The Big Question " of Saturday 6th May where 84 % of those who rang the poll stated that the BNP should be allowed to take its seat. The manufactured media outrage against the BNP is rejected by the mass of the public at large. The fact that almost a quarter of voters across Birmingham voted for the BNP, but only one BNP councillor was elected, is the true political scandal of this election.

Lee John Barnes LLB ( Hons )

BNP Legal Affairs Unit.

The forum post in which this letter is cited continues:

Now as we all know, Lee Barnes isn’t a lawyer of any description, and is therefore unable to give legal advice or a legal opinion of his own. Not only is he unqualified to do so, but would never be able to obtain professional indemnity insurance, without which he is personally liable for the consequences of any bad purported legal advice he might ever give.

Now above I see that Barnes says in my legal opinion. That turn of phrase is usually used in a legal context to mean one has taken the view at least of junior counsel, to obtain which a solicitor would have been needed to have been instructed.

A search on the Law Society’s website shows that Barnes is not currently a practicing solicitor and has no business, therefore, in offering a legal opinion to anyone.

Ebanks’ claim that the BNP has charged her with being anti-Semitic is an interesting development, if true, not least in light of my own work earlier this year in exposing the anti-Semitic views of BNP member and newly-elected Sandwell Councillor, Simon Smith (aka ‘Steve Freedom’). If holding anti-Semitic views is reason for expulsion from Griffin’s carefully sanitised version of the BNP, then the material uncovered and posted on this blog earlier this year should means that Smith is a ‘goner’ for certain, so I await further local developments with interest – if they happen.

To make matters even more interesting BNP leader. Nick Griffin, and activist Mark Collett are due back in court this week (1st November) to face a retrial on charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred and using words or behaviour likely to stir up racial hatred; for which the BNP are currently running an appeal for funds, despite both Griffin and Collett receiving legal aid – the money is apparently to pay for the costs of additional ‘security’, as if such a case will not see the court and its surrounding environs crawling with Police anyway.

With the BNP in financial meltdown, open in-fighting over Ebanks’ expulsion and Griffin up before the beak this week, what else can one add but…

…MWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Via Tom Watson, I discover that yesterday the ordinarily quite sensible Chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, John Denham, appears to have suffered a mental aberration of sorts and suggested in the House that offenders undertaking community service should wear uniforms and that unemployed offenders should receive longer sentences than those in employment.

Convicted offenders who are unemployed should be given longer community sentences, according to the chairman of the influential home affairs committee.

John Denham claimed offenders who had a job or cared for family members should receive shorter sentences.

This would be fairer because "the impact is clearly much heavier on someone who is already busy than someone who isn’t", he said.

The Home Secretary has said he needs solutions to overcrowding in jails.

Mr Denham, a former Home Office minister, claimed his suggestion would build confidence in community sentences - an important part of reducing overcrowding in prisons.

"If someone has more time on their hands, perhaps if they are unemployed, but not necessarily, the length of their sentence should be longer," he told the BBC.

He said punishments should have a "broadly equal impact on people".

"Giving different offenders the same length of community sentence is superficially equal, but in reality, it isn’t."

As an example, he said a worker would find a community sentence of 100 hours "really tough [because] that’s going to take a lot of your free time over the next few months".

An unemployed person would not find 100 hours so disruptive, however, he added.

And the principle of giving offenders different sentences was already accepted as higher earners could already be subject to bigger fines than lower earners, he claimed.

Mr Denham also suggested that offenders should wear uniforms while carrying out their community sentences, and that there should be greater use of attendance centres so that public saw "offenders are being deprived of some of their liberty".

The only reasonable response to both suggestion is resounding ‘NO’.

The whole business of putting offenders on community service in uniforms is one that I had thought dealt with more than adequately at the time that Hazel Blears suggested that they should wear Gitmo-style orange jumpsuit, only for that suggestion to be quickly retracted in the face of public ridicule.

The problem with putting offenders doing community service in uniform is one that is quick easily illustrated.

Earlier this year, I took my 14 year-old son to his first rock festival, the Download Festival at Donington Park - and had an excellent time, as it happens. Rock festivals, as it happens, have changed considerably over the years, more or less under the direct influence of the hugely successful Glastonbury Festival, such that where once one would have spent a couple of days camping out in a field with little else to do but watch bands, drink beer, eat hugely expensive junk food from greasy-looking burger vans (staffed by equally greasy looking vendors), today one gets all that plus a small fun-fair, skateboard/bmx displays and competitions, after-hours entertainments - Download had an over-18s only ‘cabaret club’ with stand-up comedy shows and lap-dancing (apparently… with my partner, son and 14 year-old niece in tow there was no prospect of checking out that venue) - and a sizeable ’street-market’ that was open from around 8am to at least midnight.

And if there was a ‘hot’ item for sale this year, then judging from the number of people I saw wearing it during the four days of the Festival, it was fake US prison attire; nothing quite so elaborate as the full -on orange jumpsuits but a large number of shirts (bright orange, black or dark blue) and that old favorite, the dyed-black German army-surplus combat jacket) all emblazoned with stencilled text announcing that the wearer was a former inmate of institutions as varied as Gitmo, Alcatraz, San Quentin, Attica or a variety of state psychiatric instititutions - my son went for a black combat jacket with red stencilling for a mental hospital in Philadelphia for what was the very reasonable price of £15.

Such is the nature of street fashion that any possible impact that placing offenders on community service in uniform might have would be rapidly negated by the uniforms becoming, first, a ‘badge of honour’ amongst some young offenders and then a fashion item, unless one could contrive a design uniform so deperately uncool as make such a transition impossible - which seems unlikely when one considers that for a time even pastel-coloured shell-suits were thought fashionable in some quarters.

Unless one is prepared to put offenders in a uniform consisting of brown polyester trousers with a waste-band that stretches up to a mere in ord so below the nipples, a nylon shirt and a home-knitted tank-top then there is little prospect of arriving at design that will not be rapidly - and fashionably - subverted to other purposes.

As to the matter of longer sentences for unemployed offenders, in what sense could that be considered justice?

Denham makes the point that courts already apply a form of differential sentencing in relation to fines by taking into account the income and financial status of offenders when levying fines, however a fine and a custodial sentence (or community service order) are two very different things with the result that his argument is based on an ‘apples and oranges’ comparison.

There are sound practical reasons for varying the size of fines according to the offenders ability to pay, both in trelation to seeking to ensure that such fines have a sufficiently punitive/deterrent effect on the offender as to persuade them of the error of their ways and in terms of the practicalities of collection and the need to avoid, if possible, the entirely counterproductive outcome of an offender finding themselves ‘forced’ to resort to further criminal activity in order to pay the costs incurred in being fined for an earlier offence. The classic example of this is, of course, street prostitution, where it is almost a matter of routine that, in the absence of other support, one will find prostitutes back working the streets within hours of a court appearance in order earn the money to pay off the fine.

To suggest that it may be right to increase the duration of sentences where the offender is unemployed suggests a mind-set coloured both by considerations of creating an appearance that would ‘play well’ in the Sun, Daily Mail and Daily Express and, more importantly, by the always problematic notion of a notional differential between the deserving and undeserving poor; one that has persistantly troubled left-wing ‘thinkers’ for the entire history of the Labour Party - as I recall this distinction certainly occupied the minds of some early Fabians even to the extent of them speculating on the possibility that the problems of dealing with the ‘worthless’ social underclass might be solved by the most extreme methods; anything from eugenics to simply culling the feckless and irredeemably indigent. It goes without saying that such musings do not show left-wing thought at its best or anything approaching its most humane.

Yes, it is true, that certain notably liberal states do employ forms of custodial sentence in which the employment status of the offender is taken into account. Again, from memory, both the Netherlands and Sweden have (and probably still does) made use of ‘weekend’ prisons for petty offenders in which the liberty of offenders is curtailed only at the weekend (obviously) so as not to cause them to lose their job as a result of having received a custodial sentence. This is certainly not an idea without merit or value, but the motivation and thinking behind the use of such a custodial system in these countries is rather different to that which appears to underpin Denham’s thinking; the intent being first and foremost to ensure that the offender can remain in gainful employment and therefore avoid the trap of poverty (and further poverty-induced criminality) rather than to impose a more punitive regime on those without employment.

The overriding question one must consider here is precisely what Denham’s proposal is expected to achieve in the context of the main functions of the post-conviction criminal justice system?

His suggestion that, on principle, punishments should have a "broadly equal impact on people", suggests that he is thinking, or at least attempting to cast his idea, in terms of a notional sense of justice, as much to suggest that increasing the duration of sentences for unemployed offenders redressed the ‘balance’ of their enjoying greater liberty by not having deal with the strictures that come with holding down a job. On the opposite side of the coin, however, one can readily argue that their economic circumstances afford them considerably less liberty than those in employment; they may notionally have more free time but are also less able to make beneficial use of that time due to the constraints of the financial circumstances. In assessing the impact of sentencing there is, therefore, a question of the relative value of the liberty enjoyed by someone who is unemployed as opposed to someone who is in work.

Does the notional value of the quantity enjoyed by of the former outweigh that of the quality enjoyed by the latter? That is far from being an easy question to answer and one that is impossible to assess in anything but entirely subjective terms and therefore a rather poor basis upon which to attempt to construct a coherent sentencing regime.

Longer sentences are certainly punitive and satisfy insatiable tabloid-driven demands for greater punishment of offenders; but then the question has to be asked as to what exactly are we punishing these people for? For their criminal conduct or for their being unemployed? The one tabloid newspaper to cover Denham’s comments (from an advance briefing), The Daily Mirror, prefaces an otherwise factual account of its content with the headline, ‘Exclusive: Top MP, Give Jobless Longer Sentences’ to which it appends the sub-heading, ‘Layabout yobs have the time, says Denham’ and appears, therefore, in no doubt that, at least in part, it is the fact of someone’s lack of a job that justifies greater punishment.

But if one takes that route, then are we not simply punishing someone more heavily simply for being poor - and if so does that not run contrary to the concept of social justice that (ostensibly) lies at the heart of Labour’s political philosophy and values?

Introducing the concept of differential sentencing for the notionally deserving and undeserving poor also creates tremendous practical difficulties insofar as it would appear to require the courts to make an assessment, in handing down sentence, as to whether the offender they are dealing with is one who is unwilling to get a job as opposed to one who is unable to get a job for reasons that may be partly or even largely beyond their control. Denham suggests that, for example, those who do not work because the care for family members would fall under the deserving side of the equation, but what of those whose lack of employment is a consequence of their own poor health, their lack of educational attainment and opportunity, or have mental health problems that limit the chances of gaining employment or even those who find themselves unable to find work because, for all that the government has expanded the scope of equality legislation, they still find themselves in a labour market where the odds of success are stacked heavily against them. The overall employment rate amongst over 50s has increased under Labour, but it remains the case that in 2004 the were still  some 27.4% of those aged between 50 and the state pension age were classed as economically inactive.

And beyond that, if having more time on your hands than someone in employment become grounds for the imposition of a longer sentence, would this also mean that pensioners, those who have already retired from work, would be looking at rather more jail-time than their more youthful (and working) criminal counterparts?

Absent in all this, as is so often the case, is any consideration of the other side the custodial coin; the rehabilitative element at which the current prision system is notably primarily for its widespread and manifest failures.

Remember that here, in Denham’s suggestions, we are dealing with sentencing for the unemployed, many of whom will be those in most need to rehabilitative support if they are to get off the criminal justice treadmill.

Not all unemployed offenders who come before a court does so because they are irredeemable ‘layabouts’; many find themselves before a court for acqusitive crimes of a kind that are, themselves, either driven by poverty or the result of behavior undertaken as a means of ‘escape’ from its depredations (i.e. drug use), and it should be noted that it is largely in the area of such acquisitive crimes; theft, burglary, fraud, etc. and in crimes in which there is no notional victim (prosititution) that the considerations outlined by Denham are most likely to apply. In the case of the violent offenders it would be absurd to suggest that considerations of their employment status might carry significant weight over or in addition to the degree of violence exercised in committing the offence for which they have been convicted.

The perennial question in dealing with poverty-related criminality is that of whether there isn’t more to be gained by directing the resources of the criminal justice system more towards rehabilitation than punishment.

Does society, in general, benefit more from banging up petty criminals whose unlawful acquistive behaviour is driven by drug addiction than it would from placing such offenders in rehabilitation programmes with the objective of weaning off the habit that drove them into crime in the first place? If an offender is found to be trapped in poverty and denied the chance of gainful employment due to their low educational attainment or lack of marketable skills, is it better, in the long-term, to imprison them or educate them? These same questions are equally applicable in terms of community sentences, which often involve offenders carrying out relatively menial (and manual) tasks; cleaning up graffiti is one particular favorite, tasks that may well satisfy the desire of the press to offenders ‘punished’ by way of a nod to the bygone days in which breaking rocks for hours on end was thought an essential component of any prison regime, but which does little or nothing to afford the offender any basis upon which they might gain employment one their sentence is concluded.

Faced with an unemployed offender with minimal basic skills (i.e. literacy and or numeracy) is it really better that they should work off their sentence clearing the local canal of dead dogs and shopping trolleys or would their time not be better spent in a classroom receiving the education they didn’t get at school, in the hope that by addressing their lack of marketable skills they might go on to escape from the cycle of criminality - in reality a downward spiral - by getting a job and escaping from abject poverty?

Or to use a medical analogy, are we not better off seeking cures for such problems rather than merely managing the symptoms in order to keep the hanging and flogging lobby from bursting a bloodvessel at the headlines in whichever of the screamsheets they read over breakfast?

As the recent and entirely artificial ‘furore’ over some prisonered being ‘paid’ to play Scrabble - a game that requires them to form letters into words and develop literacy skills - ably proved it is nigh on impossible at present to conduct a sensible and rational debate on the balance between punishment and rehabilitation in the criminal justice system without being immediately drowned out by the usual pissing contest over who’s the ‘toughest on crime’. Driven on by the screamsheets who understand that nothing sells copy better than lurid headlines, macho posturing and the scent of public fear and anxiety, however unfounded in reality, we have arrived at the sad position where the public incapable of assessing the effectiveness of a Home Secretary by any means but  the cut of his black uniform and the mirrored patina of his jackboots - any sense of understanding whether the criminal justice system is operating effectively in tackling crime is entirely lost in a cloud of media-fuelled testosterone.

The sad paradox of the Blair years is that while, overall, the level of crime has fallen year on year, even allowing for usual vagaries of official Home Office statistics, public fear of crime has grown, and continues to grow, exponentially.

The mantra of the Home Office has become ‘the rights of the victim’, as if this can somehow be separated entirely from other rights, not least the right to justice and to a fair trial before an impartial court and a jury of your peers - the latter being a right that the Home Office has been attemtping to curb for some years, now.

We are constantly being exhorted by politicans and the press to empathise with victims of crime in the much the same kind of exercise in vicarious public ‘grief’ that accompanied the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, resulting in the creation of a culture of celebrity around the more notable, and high profile, victims of crime, beginning with James Bulger and, perhaps, finding its ultimate expression to date in the Soham murders. As a society our perceptions of crime and, more importantly the risk of crime have become entirely distorted by a cult of victimhood that is little more than the bastard offspring of tabloid journalism and Warhol’s adage that everyone would one day have their fifteen minutes of fame - which today is readily achieved if one can contrive to become a newsworthy corpse.

In such a climate, the criminal justice ‘debate’ such as it is, is almost entirely driven by the impulse to punish, an impulse about which one needs always to be vigilante as its motive force is all too easily (and often) the desire not for justice but for revenge. Rarely, if even, does any thought of rehabilitation get a look in, and where it does it is there only to be derided for being ’soft’ and ‘liberal’ as if both should be regarded, themselves, as being crimes against the common good.

The bitter irony in all this is that for all the macho posturing and talk of being ‘tough’ on crime, such behaviour in government is anything but a sign of genuine strength of will and character. To fall meekly into line with the incessant and illiberal demands of the tabloid press and to respond to their own mantra that ’something must be done’ with ill-considered knee-jerk policies and ‘initiaitves’ is but a sign of moral weakness and cowardice on the part of senior politicians and, in turn, of the general diminuation of the moral and ethical character of the executive if not of Parliament itself - although, thankfully, at times such a strength of character and moral purpose may still arise from the floor of the House, as it did on the occasion of rejecting the government’s attempt to permit the police to detain terrorist suspects for 90 days without bringing charges against them.

Press-driven moral panics and demands for tough action on crime are neither a new phenonmenon nor an unusal one. One remembers clearly that for a long period of time, during the height of the Northern Ireland ‘troubles’, each and every terrorist attack on mainland Britain in which lives were lost was routinely accompanied by demands from the tabloid press for the restoration of the death penalty for terrorist ‘murders’, demands that, on occasion, resulted in the matter being put to a vote of the House of Commons.

Back in the 1970s, had the Sun, Express and Mail has their way, the British state would have executed the Guildford Four, the Maguire seven and the Birmingham Six for their presumed ‘crimes’, which as we now know we not theirs at all.

That these men did not die in a British prison at the end of rope and were ultimately, and in the case of Guiseppe Conlan, posthumously, exonerated of the crimes for which they were imprisoned is in no small part due to view of successive Parliaments that, in matters of criminal justice, it is more important that governments do the right thing than it is that they take that which, for a transient period of time, they are told by the press would be the ‘popular’ course action.

Thinking back to those times, one’s memory of the politicians of the time is that but for the usual band of die-hard hangers and floggers that one found in the minority in the Tory Party (and all too easily in Unionsit ranks) there was, even in the face of the media’s most strident demands for vengeance, never any realistic prospect that the government of the day, and Parliament itself, would cave in to such ‘pressure’ and reinstate hanging. Yes, there was at least one free vote in the Common, during the Thatcher years, but even that was undertaken solely to keep her own back-benches happy and to allow those in her own ranks who supported the reintroduction of the death penalty to make a public statement.

Back then, one could be confident that whatever else happened, Parliament would do the right thing, the moral thing, and not reinstate hanging - looking at the government as it stands today and it record on pandering to demands of the tabloids, could one feel quite so confident were it not that the Human Rights Act specifically prohibits a return to capital punishment?

Sadly, there are times when one is not quite so sure as one should be.

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Without fanfare and with precious little attention from seemingly any of the core Eustonistas, it would appear that Norman Geras has quietly and self-effacingly recanted his once open support for the war in Iraq.

Still, there have been too many deaths; there has been too much other suffering. It has lately become clear to me - and this predates publication of the second Lancet report - that, whatever should now happen in Iraq, the war that I’ve supported has failed according to one benchmark of which I’m in a position to be completely certain.

That is, had I been able to foresee, in January and February 2003, that the war would have the results it has actually had in the numbers of Iraqis killed and the numbers now daily dying, with the country (more than three years down the line) on the very threshold of civil war if not already across that threshold, I would not have felt able to support the war and I would not have supported it. Measured, in other words, against the hopes of what it might lead to and the likelihoods as I assessed them, the war has failed. Had I foreseen a failure of this magnitude, I would have withheld my support. Even then, I would not have been able to bring myself to oppose the war. As I have said two or three times before, nothing on earth could have induced me to march or otherwise campaign for a course of action that would have saved the Baathist regime. But I would have stood aside.

Quite a revelation, one might think, although not one it would seem that (m)any of the more vocal supporters of the Euston Manifesto has thought worth commenting on – a quick and far from exhaustive scan through several of blogs most closely (and vocally) associated with the ‘Credo Eustonista’ (Harry’s Place, Oliver Kamm, Pootergeek, Shuggy, Paulie, etc.) reveals not a solitary musing on the subject of Norm’s muted volte-face, Nothing. Nada. Not a flicker of recognition, embarrassed or otherwise.

Which rather, to my mind, does Norm a major disservice.

Update/Correction: It seems I do Oliver Kamm a minor disservice that I am happy to correct in as much as it transpires that he has commented on Norm’s article, if only to indicate his disagreement with Norm’s conclusions and intention of responding fully in due course…

I respect but do not share the judgement that Norman expresses in this post. I believe our difference may be due, in part at least, to the fact that our grounds for supporting the Iraq War in 2003, while associated, were not identical. I will endeavour to explain why, in light of Norman’s reasoning, I do not agree with his conclusions.

Whatever one might have thought of Norm’s often unswerving support for the moral ‘rightness’ of the Iraq war, even as matters ran what were, to the war’s opponents on the rational left, their inevitable course; there remains a significant element of personal courage in any admission of error for which, on this occasion, Norm deserves full credit.

It is not easy to admit that one has got something badly wrong and in qualifying his repudiation of the war and the course its has followed since Bush prematurely declared himself and America the victor in 2003, Norm has said nothing that one could consider to be unreasonable mitigation for his views.

It is not wrong to express the hope that it may be possible to salvage something from the current shambles that is Iraq, nor to take the view that an immediate and unilateral withdrawal of Western forces would amount to no more than throwing the Iraqi people to the wolves, albeit that many of those wolves are of our own invention. Nor is it wrong to express principled opposition to the former Ba’athist regime in Iraq nor even the view that…

Sometimes there is a justification for opposing tyranny and barbarism whatever the cost. Had I been of mature years during that time, I hope I would have supported the war against Nazism come what may, and not been one of the others, the nay-sayers.

Norm’s error, such as it is, has been one of naivety. He has been that bit too concerned with ideals, principles and with the morality of situation in Iraq to the exclusion of considering its realities; but as faults go it is one that I can personally view with a measure of indulgence. There is always a need for someone to speak up for ideals, for principles and for moral values, but that need must be balanced by an understanding of their limitations along with their value. Such is the essential difference between spiritual/intellectual leadership and secular leadership and by his error in the matter of the Iraq war, Norm identifies himself as being more suited to the former than to the latter.

One has to wonder why it is that Norm’s rescission of his support for the Iraq war has received so little open attention is ‘decent’ circles.

Could this be a sign of embarrassment, perhaps? Or maybe it is anxiety that prompts the more belligerently vocal Eustonistas to look the other way while Norm executes his act of mild contrition; the fear that this might somehow serve to undermine the Euston ‘project’ as a whole.

If such is true, and who knows it may well be the case, then such fears and anxieties as may reside amongst supporters of the Euston ‘project’ are entirely miscast and predicated on a misreading of the real significance of Norm’s comments.

In admitting to an error of judgment on the Iraq war, Norm has opened the door to a possible rapprochement on the left between the Eustonistas and those left-wing rationalists who opposition to the war has gone unabated throughout but whose views have never tipped over into the anti-Imperialist dogma and naked communalism of RESPECT and the Socialist Worker’s Party.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong or at fault in the underlying ideals and principles upon which the Euston Manifesto is founded, indeed as an aspirational document for the left it contains much that is to be commended. That it has not commanded wider support amongst left-wing rationalists has stemmed in part from the, at times, rigid refusal of the vocal self-identified decents to concede the fact that the political and ideological basis upon which the Iraq War was entered into in reality in no way substantively reflects the values of the Manifesto, or even the core values of ‘the left’, if one can adequately describe ‘the left’ in terms of a single entity.

Put simply, if there is to be a template for a new left-wing internationalism then Iraq is not it, nor indeed is to be found within an alliance, however loose, with the doctrine of neo-conservatism that provided the actual political and ideological impetus for that war.

If one is to enter the struggle against totalitarism and remain true to one’s left-wing instincts then one cannot fall into the same trap that has engulfed the SWP and its supporters, that of believing that the enemy of our enemy must automatically become our friend. America is not the enemy, nor should it become so for as long it holds true to those values that are expressed in its declaration of independence and in its constitution, but nor is the present regime of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton Wolfowitz et al, our friend. Its agenda in professing to seek to ‘export’ democracy to those who suffer under the yoke of tyranny and oppression is not our agenda nor its preferred form of democracy, one that is supine in its gratitude to the military and economic power of the United States military-industrial complex, our democracy.

It has been said on numerous occasions that in opposing the war in Iraq ‘the left’ lost its ‘moral compass’. That may be true of those whose opposition takes the form of unthinking and uncritical support for the former Ba’athist regime in Iraq and for its monstrous former President, but it would also be true to say that the left’s moral compass is at least distorted, if not lost, on those occasions that it ceases to think for itself and view the world with a critical eye; and as it would appear that Norm has discovered with the benefit of hindsight, the Iraq war was one such occasion, much as the pacifism of the 1930s in face of the rise of Fascism in Europe was another.

Does this then mean that I have substantively changed my view of the Euston Manifesto?

No. Not as yet.

Much as Norm could rightly be considered the ‘conscience’ of the Eustonistas his admission of error in the matter of the Iraq war is but that of one man and it has yet to be seen whether others amongst the manifesto’s most vocal and strident supporters are equally prepared to avail themselves of the wisdom that hindsight brings. One swallow, after all, does not make a summer.

There is much that the Eustonistas must yet do to win over the left-wing rationalists who formed the real core of opposition to the Iraq war; open recognition of our very existence would assist matters greatly as would an end to the blanket use of the archaic rhetoric of the 1930s, i.e. ‘apologist’ and ‘fellow travellers’ as an ideological slur on the rationalist camp. The ‘rational’ left, that which opposed the war in Iraq with the benefit of foresight as to the disastrous situation in which one now finds the country, has never once swallowed the dogma and demagoguery that has been the hallmark of those, like RESPECT, who opposed the war for entirely ideological reasons, and, as would have been entirely apparent had the pro-war left even been minded to listen, both rejects and thoroughly resents such accusations.

The next step, for those Eustonistas who might be minded to take up the opportunity for rapprochement afforded, perhaps unwittingly, by Norm, must therefore come in the form of a clear acceptance both that the broad debate on Iraq amongst the left has never been about a mere two opposing ideological positions; the ‘decents’ and the ‘stoppers’ but that a third position, one that opposed the Iraq war and yet is by turns rationalist and realist in perspective, has existed throughout and still exists without it ever having due reference to the ideological-driven opposition of those ‘Trotskyists’ who have, since the demise of the Soviet Union, successfully transferred their own brand of negative and oppositional ‘nationalism’ to the United States – and if anyone is unsure of what I mean here or of my usage of the term ‘nationalism’ in this context, then check the side bar for a link to Orwell’s essay ‘Notes on Nationalism’, which will explain the background to these comments.

Beyond those first tentative steps, who can say how things might develop – all one can be sure of is that there would be scope for constructive dialogue and therefore a more realistic prospect of forging the kind of ‘fresh political alliance’ that the preamble to the manifesto proposes than could be realised by the Eustonistas going it alone.

Before signing off there are two substantive and interlinked points in Norm’s article that I believe deserve an explicit response, both of which raise the question of foresight amongst those who opposed the war:

It is noticeable, in this regard, that opponents of the war who were always confident its costs would be too high don’t avoid the difficulty; at any rate I’ve not seen judgements from their side of what costs they would have found acceptable, nor estimates of what the costs of leaving Saddam in power would have been - something which nobody really knows.

And…

Were we therefore wrong to support the war, those of us who did? In terms of what we hoped and what we thought likely, we obviously were - given how things have actually turned out. But on the basis of what could have been reliably foreseen, I think it’s harder to say that. Only if the disaster was always foreseeable as the most likely outcome would I be convinced of it. I’m aware, of course, that there are opponents of the war who claim it always was foreseeable, but there are other impulses at work there than a detached estimate of probabilities, and amongst these has been a desire not to dwell too closely on how bad things had been in Iraq over some three decades.

To which I can only respond in terms of my own personal judgment of the situation in Iraq leading into and since the 2003 invasion and how that, in turn, coloured my thinking on the war itself.

I make no great claim to predictive ability or prophecy in such matters. My opposition to the war was founded on no more than a weighing of different factors leading to a personal conclusion as to the most likely outcome of the invasion. It was a judgment call, no more and no less than would have be than which led Norm to support the invasion.

As regards what I would have considered an acceptable price in human life and human suffering for the successful excision of Iraq’s ruling Ba’athist regime, the only answer I have is that I genuinely don’t know. In my personal calculations, I  never did arrive at such a figure for no better reason than the fact that long before I even came to consider the human cost of the invasion I came to conclusion that the most likely outcome of such an invasion would be failure; not in military terms of course, but in terms of the long-term objective of constructing a free and democratic Iraq out of the aftermath of war, or to be more exact my conclusion was that the chance of success was so small as to afford no real prospect of such a future for the Iraqi people.

Does that sound clinical and a little inhuman, perhaps?

In truth, my sympathies lie closer to Norm’s than one might expect in this matter.

Seeing no prospect of a successful outcome, the question of what price in human life and suffering could be justified became entirely moot. Had I ever perceived the to be a chance of success, my thinking would have been very different, the ‘acceptable’ costs would have been quite high, in my own personal estimation, for the undoubted benefits of a safe and secure future for the Iraqi people within a free, independent, and democratic nation state of their own; although I have to say that only the Iraqi people, themselves, can truly judge precisely the price they would be prepared to pay for such a future.

As to why I concluded that failure would be not only the likely outcome but the only conceivable one, I could easily write a dissertation on that subject and still not cover all the factors that influenced my thinking.

If one factor in particular stands out, however it would be that expressed most clearly and succinctly by Gandhi…

The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within.

Nowhere in my consideration of the many factors that I perceived as mediating against a successful outcome to the 2003 invasion; the many barriers that Iraq’s history of division on geographical, ethnic, religious, economic would put in the way of a successful exercise in ‘nation-building’, and all the deep-seated animosities that spring from those forces, did I ever see there to be the existence of a genuine democratic will amongst the Iraqi people of sufficient strength and scope to overcome those barriers.

The will to democracy was not, and is not, strong enough at present to provide the platform necessary for a free and democratic Iraq, in my estimation, and if that ‘spirit’ is lacking in the Iraqi people in sufficiebnt quantity to make such a future possible then it certainly cannot be imposed upon them by an external force, even one so overwhelming in economic and military terms as the United States.

In truth, I could see from the outset only two possible conclusions to this war.

One was the balkanisation of Iraq on ethnic and religious lines leading to a failed state, civil war and regional destabilisation, not least as the influence of neighbouring states, Iran, Syria and even Turkey (who wish to avoid the creation of independent Kurdistan at all costs in order preclude demands for secession for its own, heavily oppressed Kurdish minority) would inevitably be far from benign. This, in broad terms, is the developing situation in Iraq today.

The other was either a clerically-inspired coup d’etat or the emergence of a new ‘strong man’ leader, in either case coming from and initiated by the majority Shi’a population, with the result either a quasi-democratic/theocratic state after the fashion of post-revolutionary Iran or a new dictator and totalitarian regime, much after the fashion of the ‘big man’ politics of some African states, in which the occasional foray into democracy has amounted to little more than a convenient mechanism by which one chooses one’s next absolute ruler. The real test of democracy is never what happens when one votes someone into power, but what happens when one attempts to vote someone out of office, as several African nations, not least Zimbabwe, have so ably demonstrated over the post-colonial era.

There, for what its worth, is the basis of my own ‘powers’ of foresight – nothing more than logic, rational thought and appreciation of history and of the various social and political forces that tend to work against democracy if left unchecked.

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There are times that one has to question the very sanity of some of our leading politicians, never mind their judgment and common sense, and today would appear to be one of them; as evidence by this official press release that appeared on the Labour Party website in the last hour or so…

Tory Opposition on Police and Justice Bill exposes Cameron’s hypocrisy on crime - Reid

For starters, what this headline tells us is that what follows will amount to nothing more than the usual political pissing contest over ‘who’s the toughest on crime’ - ho hum…

The Tories have yet again exposed their hypocrisy when it comes to crime today as they voted to retain measures in the Police and Justice Bill which mean criminals will be able to evade justice. Had the Tories won this vote they would have restricted the ability for the UK to extradite criminals from the USA to face justice, and put an end to important modernisation to tackle international crime.

Ah, so this is about the highly contentious extradition treaty that David Blunkett signed, using the Royal Prerogative, in 2003 and then hurried through Parliament as the Extradition Act 2003; the one that was sold as providing for fast-track extradition to the US for terrorist suspects but which has since been used almost exclusively to pursue alleged cases of ‘white collar’ crime.

John Reid, Labour’s Home Secretary, said:
 
"This is yet more evidence of David Cameron’s hypocrisy on crime. One minute he promises to take the measures necessary to address crime, the next he votes against Labour’s measures to do just that.
 
"Only last month, Cameron spoke of his desire to ‘get tough’ on white collar crime, but today his party have demonstrated how hollow those words were. And when this legislation first came through parliament he expressed his concern about the need to streamline extradition.
 
"The British public will judge Cameron and his party on their actions, not words. No amount of presentation will allow Cameron to escape the reality of the Tory record: they have continually opposed Labour’s tough measures on crime.
 
"David Cameron says one thing but he does another: he talks tough on crime, but he votes soft."

And there we have the pissing contest in full swing, long on rhetorical nonsense and devoid of reasoned argument… but the press release goes on…

END 

Notes to editors:

1. At Lords Committee stage on 11 July, the Lords made amendments to the Police and Justice Bill on three issues.

o One was to remove the United States from a list of countries which do not have to provide prima facie evidence (but do have to provide detailed information about  the facts of the case to enable the court to decide whether the offences are also crimes under English law)  

o The second was to require the judge to refuse an extradition request if any of the conduct in the request was carried out in the UK, unless he could establish that it would be in the interests of justice to extradite the person

o The third would prevent us, at any time in the future (without primary legislation) changing the evidential requirements for the US; effectively killing the new treaty.

And here we come to the nub of the issue…

One was to remove the United States from a list of countries which do not have to provide prima facie evidence (but do have to provide detailed information about  the facts of the case to enable the court to decide whether the offences are also crimes under English law)

In layman’s terms, the 2003 treaty creates a situation in which, without the Tory’s amendments, the US merely has to demonstrate that a British citizen (or resident) is to be charged after extradition with an offence that would be a crime under UK law - what we would normally refer to as ‘making an allegation’ - but without there being any requirement that the US authorities provide any prima facie evidence to support that allegation.

This second requirement, the removal of which the Home Office objects to is what in the US judicial system is referred to as ‘probably cause’ which is defined, at its most basic level, as a reasonable belief both that a crime has been committed and that the person is linked to the crime with the same degree of certainty.

Probable cause forms the basic standard by which, in the US, a police officer may make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search or apply for a warrant and should be a fairly familar concept to anyone who has ever watched a US ‘Police Procedural’ show such as any of the three CSI series, ‘Law & Order’ or ‘Homicide: Life on the Streets’.

And thereby hangs the problem, as even with this treaty in place, a request from the UK for the extradition of a suspect from the US must meet the standard of ‘probable cause’, i.e. it must show both that the offence for which the individual is to be charged is a criminal offence in the US and that there is evidence to demonstrate that they have, in effect, got the right man (or woman), and arrangement that is not reciprocated under the treaty in the case of extraditions from the UK to the US, where there is no requirement on the US authorities to put evidence to UK court sufficient to establish probable cause.

There is, in this, a clear lack of equity and reciprocity in the process; one that until recently was even more marked by the failure of the US Senate to ratify the treaty (it did so only on 30 September this year, three years after it was signed by both governments)…

… and the reason the US held of on ratification for so long? Concern for the basic constitutional rights of its citizens, no less, something about which the Home Office have shown little or no concern on this side of the arrangement.

2. During the passage of the Extradition Bill David Cameron said:
 
Mr. David Cameron (Witney): As the Minister is aware, many important extraditions have not gone ahead because of the courts’ interpretation of article 3 of the European convention on human rights. Is he aware of the Soering judgment, in which someone accused of murder could not be extradited to the United States under article 3? What will the Bill do to try to streamline such cases and make the extraditions go ahead?

David Cameron, 9 December, 2002, Hansard Column: 40

This is, indeed, true. The ruling of the European Court of Human Rights in Soering prohibits extradition from any EU country where the individual in question is charged with a capital crime, i.e. one where the death penalty could be applied.

This does not prevent extraditions to the US outright in cases of, using Cameron’s example, murder, only extraditions for crimes that carry the Federal death penalty or to individual states in which the death penalty remains on statute. Soering does not provide, therefore, to extraditions to the following states:

Alaska, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, Wisconsin and the District of Columbia (i.e Washington DC)

In practice, Soering does not prevent extraditions at all as all the US or an individual US state has to do is give a binding commitment that it will not seek the death penalty in a case subject to extradition, i.e. agree in advance that the maximum penalty that the state will seek to obtain is life without parole.

If the inclusion of this ‘note’ is intended to reinforce the contention that Cameron is somehow soft on crime by citing Soering in the Commons, then all it shows is that whoever put this press release together really must think newspaper editors amongst the most stupid people to be found anywhere in British society. The simple fact is that Soering, as a binding judgment of the European Court of Human Rights, is something over which neither Cameron or John Reid has any control or authority - the legal position in the UK, as in the rest of Europe, is that an individual cannot be extradited to the US to face trial for an offence that could result in the imposition of the deathy penalty, no matter who is government at any particular time.

3. In an interview with Real Business magazine, David Cameron talked tough on white collar crime:

David Cameron:  And I think a lot of business I talk to are not satisfied with the response we have in this country to white collar crime.

Question:  Will there be specific proposals for that?

DC: Yeah, get tough on it! When you see someone committing a fraud on a business and you see them then getting a few hours community service - that is not good enough.

Q: So increase penalties?

DC: Yes, if necessary, yes.

Q: An ability to fire them?

DC: Yes. As I’ve said, this important. All we’re saying is that sometimes politicians in listening to the business sector are so used to just picking up the messages about tax and bureaucracy that they don’t listen to the other things. It’s very important we listen to those things like white collar crime that is very concerning to a lot of businesses.

(David Cameron, Real Business magazine, September, 2006: www.realbusiness.co.uk/Blog.aspx)

Cameron may have ‘talked tough’ on white collar crime in this interview, but even an idiot can see that he does so in the context of the UK and the UK legal system and not with reference to the question of extradition to the US.

These are two very different matters. One is about whether the UK’s legal system treats white collar crime sufficiently seriously, the other is about whether we should extradite British citizens/residents to the US on the strength of nothing more than an allegation, a standard of ‘evidence’ insufficient to secure an extradition the other way.

4. But by voting to retain the Lords amendments on extradition in the Police and Criminal Justice Bill, David Cameron’s Conservatives are opposing important modernisation to tackle international crime, thus revealing his hypocrisy on crime. The Lords amendments which the Tories voted for today will:

o make us unable to extradite to the UK offenders in the US wanted here for modern crimes

Errm. How, exactly?

The evidentiary requirements for extradition from the US to the UK are well known and understood and have not been substantially altered by the 2003 treaty. In fact the treaty in question could not make any alterations to the core requirements on the US side of the treaty as these are defined by its constitution.

Nothing in these Lords’ amendments would appear to have any affect on such extradition requests as they apply solely and exclusively to extradtion from the UK to the US and not vice-versa.

o allow sex offenders [whose crimes were committed a few years ago but are still on the run in America ] to shelter there from justice

Again, how will adding a requirement that the US authorities show probably cause, an evidentiary standard with which they are entirely familiar as it forms a fundamental pillar of thier own criminal justice system, affect the ability of the UK to seek the extradition of sex offenders from the US?

What have sex ofenders got to do with this issue in the first place, other than as a blatant and transparent appeal to the screamsheets (The Sun, Daily and Express) to splash ‘Cameron blocks Paedo Extraditions’ headlines across tomorrow’s front pages.

o block us from adding charges to someone already extradited, even if we had strong evidence

And again, how do any of these amendments give rise to that precise effect?

You’re making claims here without a single shred of evidence to back them up, not even in your explaination of the nature and purpose of these amendments.

o mean that there was no chance of getting American lifers to face justice for other crimes committed in the UK.

Hang on a second. Aside from the fact, yet not a single one of the amendments cited in this article has anything at all to do with extraditions from the US to the UK, you’re also now suggesting that somewhere in all this we’re wanting to be able to extradite prisoners from the US who are already serving a life sentence, which can often mean a sentence without parole, to stand trial in a UK court?

Am I missing something here or are these hypothetical prisoners not already serving a life sentence, in which case why the fuck would we be trying to extradite them in the first place?

If you want to extradite the occasional corpse from the US then be my guest, but this still has absolutely fuck all to do with any of the amendments you’re complaining about at the start of this press release.

Going back to the original list of ‘charges’ against Cameron, I can’t help but notice this one…

the third would prevent us, at any time in the future (without primary legislation) changing the evidential requirements for the US; effectively killing the new treaty.

So what you’re actually is that this treaty, which you signed three years ago and are only now seeking to pass legislation to enact parts of it,  won’t work at all if any future changes to the evidential requirements for extraditions to the US are subject to full and democratic Parliamentary scrutiny?

In short, we can’t have international treaties in Parliament insists that the little matter of parliamentary democracy gets in the way?

I think you know exactly what’s coming next… you can fuck that idea for a game of international relations right from the outset.

Looks, as party member, there is nothing I enjoy quite so much as good old dig at the Tories but if and when I do that I do have one little requirement that I like to adhere to…

…that whatever it is I’m having a dig over has at least some semblance of a basis in fucking reality.

Call me picky, but I do have some standards one of which is that I try to base my arguments on logic, rational thought and the occasional solid fact - its what I tend to think of as having a little ‘personal integrity’.

Even as a Labour Party member I cannot advance the arguments put forward here, not when its patently obvious that they amount to nothing more nor less than a pile of steaming horse-shit and, to be entirely clear on this, I find that to be a complete and utter fucking embarrassment.

I am, the last time I looked, still a member of the Labour Party and not a member of the Daily fucking Express and whether you like it or not, I have certain standards and values that do matter to me, not least of which are honest and integrity, and I neither appreciate nor enjoy seeing my own party slopping around in the political gutter with press releases that are patently and obviously a work of complete and utter fiction.

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There is a maxim, thought to have originated either with Sir Alec Issigonis, the designer of the Mini, or in the July 1958 issue of Vogue, which holds that ‘a camel is a horse designed by a committee’.

The meaning of that maxim should be clear to anyone who has ever worked in any kind of bureaucratic or corporate environment. ‘Design by committee’ is a byword for any project, product or business process in which there is to found needless complexity, logical and practical flaws, internal inconsistancies and a lack of vision and purpose, all of which stem from a lack of leadership from the outset and general incompentence throughout. If you’ve ever read a Dilbert cartoon and thought to yourself; ‘that’s just like my office/workplace/company’, then you’ll know exactly what ‘design by committee’ means and why it invariably ends in disaster.

And if all this sounds entirely familiar, then you’ll also know that when such projects fail, as they unceasingly do, then at that point the principle of ‘collective responsibility’ comes in play; but more importantly you will also know that collective responsbility does not mean that anyone is actually held responsible for the failure in question, rther it means that any responsibility for such a failure is spread so diffusely that it become impossible to hold anyone to account.

All of which bring me to the Sunday Times and its publication of a leaked discussion paper on reform of the House of Lords, which for ease of access I’ve also uploaded to MoT and which, far from being a thoroughbred in the making, is already looking suspiciously like a parliamentary camel as befits a design process that seeks consensus amongst members of a cross-party working group.

Discussion Paper for Cross-Party Working Group (pdf)

From the very outset there is a fundamental problem with this entire reform process, one that this discussion paper not only fails to address but whose existance it does not even acknowledge.

Why, put simply, is a major package of reforms to the constitution of the United Kingdom being discussed, debated and, ultimately, determined in near total secrecy without any seeming intent on the part of the government (and indeed parliament itself)  to engage in public debate and consultation on this matter?

Do we as citizens have no interest at all in the nature and composition of our own parliament, but for that of dutifully sticking a cross in box on a ballot paper every four or five years?

Seemingly not, if the report in the Sunday Times is to be believed…

After years of deadlock on Lords reform, a consensus is said to be so imminent that the proposals are expected to be put to a free vote in the Commons after Christmas, with the first elections and appointments to the new upper house taking place at the next general election.

A concensus amongst whom? The British people? No, of course not.

We’re talking about a concensus amongst the thee main political parties and amongst fewer than 1400 members of both Houses who will be given a vote on this matter, which is being reserved entirely to the electorate of the rotten borough of Westminster Village.

What is being proposed here is nothing more nor less than government of the people by the political elite, for the political elite, not to mention a continuation of Prmie Ministerial patronage, as Tony Benn correctly noted in his comments on the BBC’s ‘The Politics Show’:

In a democracy you vote for the people who make the laws you are expected to obey.

No prime minister wants democracy because he depends on patronage to control the MPs and everyone else.

What is clear from the outset here is that there is to be no substantive public debate on what is a highly significant series of consitutional reforms - there simply isn’t time for such a debate given that Straw intends to publish a white paper AND put a bill to a free vote before the end of December.

Before getting into this in more detail it is important to understand that reform of the composition of the House of Lords is only half the story. Alongside the cross-party working group, which has been considering the general make-up of a future second chamber there is also a Joint Commons/Lords Select Committee on ‘Conventions’, which has been meeting since May 2006 to consider the ‘codification’ of parliamentary conventions that help to define the working relationship between the two chambers not least of which is the Salisbury/Addison convention, which holds that the Lords should not vote down ot table ‘wrecking amendments’ to government bills that enact manifesto commitments in the wake of a General Election.

I will come to the question of conventions in a while, but to begin with its worth picking over the contents of Straw’s ‘aide memoir’ in a little more detail.

As has been widely reported, Straw proposes that a revised second chamber should have fewer members (450 as opposed to the current figure of 741) of whom half would be elected, with the other half appointed by an independent commission. The very first thing to note, therefore, is that on the last occasion that Lords Reform was put to the vote, during the late Robin Cook’s tenure as Leader of the House, the option of a 50-50 split between elected and appointed members was one that the Commons rejected outright without even putting the proposal to a vote: on that occasion, the Commons voted down four different options - 100% appointed, 100% elected and two hybrids (80% elected, 20% appointed and 60% elected, 40% appointed) of which the 80-20 split came closest to being accepted (3 votes).

The other notable thing about this last attempt at Lords Reform was the conduct of Tony Blair, who effectively wrecked any prospect of reform on that occasion by making his voting intentions (all appointed or nothing) known to the House (and to Labour members in particular) during PMQ’s less than a week before the vote on Cook’s reform bill in response to an obviously planted question from Labour MP for Tyne Bridge.

David Clelland (Tyne Bridge, Lab)

Does the Prime Minister recall telling Sir David Frost in January 2002 that a reformed House of Lords must be different from the House of Commons? Does he believe that an elected Chamber would be sufficiently different? Does he agree with those of us who believe that a properly constituted, non-elected Chamber, free from the hereditary system, is the only way to guarantee the kind of deliberative, advisory and balanced second Chamber that would add value to our system of government in the United Kingdom?

Tony Blair (Prime Minister, HM Treasury)

My briefing very helpfully starts by saying, “I understand that there are a range of views on this issue.” However, everyone agrees that the status quo should not remain. Everyone agrees that the remaining hereditary peers should go and, what is more, that the prime ministerial patronage should also go. However, the issue then is whether we want an elected—

[Interruption.]

I am asked for my views; I am giving them. Do we want an elected House, or do we want an appointed House? I personally think that a hybrid between the two is wrong and will not work.

I also think that the key question on election is whether we want a revising Chamber or a rival Chamber. My view is that we want a revising Chamber, and I also believe that we should never allow the argument to gain sway that, somehow, the House of Commons is not a democratically elected body. I believe that it is democratic.

[Hon. Members: “A free vote?”]

It is a free vote; people can vote in whatever way they want, but I think that all Members, before they vote, should recognise that we are trying to reach a constitutional settlement—not for one Parliament, but for the long term. In my view, we should be cognisant not just of our views as Members of Parliament, but of the need to make sure that we do not have gridlock and that our constitution works effectively.

Blair, it should be recalled, turns up for only 5-10% of all Commons divisions, and yet he did vote on Cook’s reform proposals, but only in favour of a fully appointed second chamber…

…as did Jack Straw.

There is only one justifable argument in favour of retaining an appointed cohort within a revised second chamber and that is to ensure that the second chamber continues to have a significant contingent of independent ‘Crossbenchers’ amongst its members. As a matter of principle, a fully elected chamber would be preferable above all other options. But when one considers the composition of the House in terms of practicalities one has to concede that as a revising chamber, the House of Lord benefits considerable from the presence of a sizable number of members (currently 191 in total) who are not aligned to any one of the main three political parties, and one has also to concede that no current or proposed electoral system for a second chamber is capable of delivering such a quanity of independent members by any means short of introducing an unnecessarily complex voting procedure for elections to the House.

In proposing that 50% of the members of a revised second chamber should be appointed, the one thing that Straw is not suggesting, however, is that all appointees should be Crossbench members…

15. As to the proportion of independent members to form part of the reformed House, the ‘Wakeham Report’ January 2000 suggests this should be at least 20%. This would be a large enough proportion to ensure that no single party could achieve a working majority, whilst at the same time encourage the political parties in presenting their case to ensure they attract the support of the Crossbench.

Under Straw’s proposals, 30% of the new chamber - some 135 members in total - would continue to be political appointees, for all that the recent ‘loans for peerages’ scandal has called the entire process by which political appointments to the second chamber are made into serious question, if not wholesale disrepute.

And the justification for this..?

Straw puts forward only two sunstantive argument, both of which are entirely specious.

The first, laughably, is that of ‘diversity’…

Disadvantages [of a fully elected House]

36. A fully elected House would prove difficult to ensure representation of non-political Crossbench members, as the political parties are more likely to dominate any election process. This could result in a valuable loss of experience to the Second Chamber. It would be difficult to ensure that the principles of representation of the racial and gender mix of the UK and the representation of religious opinion were met, unless strict rules were in place when individuals stand for election. Equally it would be difficult to see how representation of the Bishops would continue or how the Prime Minister of the day could continue to make the limited number of appointments as under the current arrangements.

And…

28.The new Commission would be independent of the Executive and receive its funding and be accountable to Parliament rather than Ministers. It would regulate its own procedure and delegate its functions to staff. The Commission would determine the number and timing of appointments, select independent members and oversee party nominations. It would be charged with a general duty to appoint people to the House of Lords, to ensure that membership reflects the principles set out earlier. In particular appointments should reflect
party, regional, racial, gender and the religious balance of the UK and encourage appointments and nominations from under-represented groups.

29. The Commission would ensure propriety of political appointments. The parties would be tasked with providing a list of names to the Commission, in preferential order There would be criteria for appointment which would reflect the principles on gender, regional balance, and ethnic balance discussed in this paper. The Commission would be responsible for appointing the appropriate number of members necessary to maintain the size of the House and taking account of the balance of the parties at the most recent genera! election, If a member were to leave the House, the Commission would return to the list and appoint the next eligible member from an updated list of the party to whom the departing member belonged.

Oh, come on now, Jack, you are kidding, aren’t you..?

While a legislature that adequately reflects the diversity of British society is a laudable enough objective, such an objective is not of itself grounds for the retention of political appointees in a revised second chamber.

One of the clearest purposes of further Lords reform is that of removing, once and for all, the notion that one can obtain a seat in the legislature by virtue of heredity rather than ability - by an ‘accident of birth’; and if one disagrees fundamentally with the hereditary principle then where is the sense in removing that principle only to then reintroduce it, albeit in a diffuse and diluted form, by means of quotas based for gender and ethnicity that are, themselves, mere ‘accidents of birth’, although ones shared by a much larger proportion of the population than the ‘accident’ of aristocracy.

Moreover, why should the system be rigged to offset the short-comings of political parties in the area of equality and diversity?

Why should it be the responsibility of the state to ensure that one of the Houses of its legislature adequately reflects the diversity of wider society and not the responsibility of political parties whose representatives would make up 80% of the members on that House?

Why should such a principle apply to one chamber of the House (the Lords) and not the other (the Commons)?

Why should this proposed diversity requirement take into account only gender, ethnicity and religion? Why not sexuality or disability or indeed any other statistically significant segment of the population such a trade unions, small businesses, carers, smokers or even Amnesty International?

Why are you even trying to justify the retention of political patronage on the basis of flagrant tokenism?

You’ll notice that one of the privileged groups in all this is, inevitably, so-called faith communities of which the largest, in terms of membership of the second chamber - and the only one guaranteed representation - is the Anglican church, about which Jack has this to say…

Religious representation

16. It is important that faith communities are formally represented in the House of Lords. The Church of England, as the established Church, enjoys a special status in the social and political life In England and more widely around the United Kingdom and has long been recognised even by people who are not themselves Anglicans. Bishops have sat in the Lords since its inception; they are the only category of member whose term is limited to the holding of their office. There have in the past been arguments about the disestablishment of the Church of England. There is little steam behind such arguments today, and, in any event, any profound change in the status of the Anglican Church must be in the first instance for the Church itself. It is therefore right for there to be special representation of the Church of England in the reformed Lords.

17. Whilst recognising the quality of work they bring to the House, a more flexible approach which would allow a Bishop to take up a seat in the House of Lords where they have expressed a keen interest, rather than based on seniority should be considered. Furthermore, assuming the overall size of the House reduces, it would be difficult to justify retaining the current number of 26 Bishops. A practical solution would be to reduce the number of reserved places say from 26 to 16. This was proposed as long ago as 1968 and was at that time acceptable to the Church of England.

Yes, the Anglican Church does enjoy a special status in the social and political life In England and one would also have to be an idiot not to recognise that. However, nowhere does this statement address the question of whether its special status and the various priveleges that go with it are at all justified in a modern society.

Strip out all the people who ticked the box for Christianity in the last census for no better reason than that’s what their parents put on their birth certificate or to maintain an ‘in’ with the Church in the event of their needing its services for a wedding or funeral and the fact remains that currently a little over 800,000 people in the UK attend an Anglican Church on a regular basis, for which the church would, under these proposals, retain an automatic membership of the legislature amounting to 3.5% of the membership of the second chamber.

Moreover, under Jack’s proposals while the number of Bishops sitting in the second chamber would stay the same as it is now as a proportion of the total membership of the House, if only 20% of members of a revised chamber are to be Crossbenchers, as the paper suggests, the number of Bishops as a proportion of the Houses Crossbench (i.e independent) membership will actually increase by 30% from a little over 13% to a little under 18%.

Equally interesting is Jack’s assertion that not only is there no ’steam’ for disestablishment of the Church of England - and no evidence to support that assertion, but that any profound change in the status of the Anglican Church must be in the first instance for the Church itself, which seems to suggest that the question of whether Bishops sit in the legislature of the United Kindgom is a matter first and foremost for the Bishops themselves to decide and not one for the British people.

There is no essential reason why the position of the Anglican Church as the offical state religion of England should confer on it the automatic right to appoint members to a House of the British legislature, not least as no such right is accorded to the Church in Wales, which was disestablished in 1920 or to the Presbytarian church in Scotland nor, indeed, would the removal of Anglican Bishops from the House of Lords affect the ceremonial position of the reigning monarch as either Head of State or Head of the Church.

For all that Straw goes to great pains to commend the contribution of Bishops to the House, the simple fact is that one average an Anglican Bishop votes in the House of Lords on fewer than three occasions a year, which rather flies in the face of Straw’s arguments for viewing membership of the second chamber as a full-time job,,,

51. The House of Lords currently has a membership consisting of 741 members. This is larger than the House of Commons which has 646 Members, and is one of the largest parliamentary chambers in the world, it is highly unusual for the second chamber to be larger than the first. However not all members attend on a regular basis. For instance, taking the 2004-2005 session, although 656 members attended the House at least once, the average attendance was only 388., which better reflects the ‘working’ size of the
House of Lords.

52. It would be practical and desirable for the size of a reformed House to be reduced from its current membership, and should be smaller than the House of Commons to better reflect its revising function. This would require full-time membership to be the normal expectation and that some form of remuneration would be needed to support this (as set out elsewhere in this paper).

There may well be an argument in favour of faith communities being represented to some degree in a second chamber but beyond that Straw offers no substantive arguments as to why this should extend to Anglican Bishops sitting in the House of Lords as a matter of unchallenged and undemocratic right or why a Church that attracts a little over 800,000 people a week should be handed 16 seats in the legislature amounting to 18% of the legisatures non-party political membership for what seem to be little purpose other than to argue in favour of their own interests.

If Straw’s arguments for retaining political appointees in the second chamber are unconvincing his other justification for such a practice marks his entrance into the realms of the absurd…

Prime Minister’s appointments

59. If the Prime Minister were to be able to appoint a small number of Members to the House of Lords per Parliament directly as Ministers, it would help improve understanding between the House of Lords and the government as a whole. On ceasing to serve as Ministers, these individuals could be entitled to retain their seats for a period. It would plainly be profoundly unfair for a Minister who had had to leave office following a reshuffle of who had resigned on a point of principle, not to be able to offer the House his or her opinion thereafter. The exact terms that an outgoing Minister might be able to serve is a matter for consultation; and the legislation would have to take account of Lords’ members leaving and then rejoining a Government. But it might be sensible for such outgoing Ministers to serve for the remainder of a full three terms (calculated from when they first became Lords members) or a further full term whichever is the greater.

60. With regards to former public service appointments to a reformed House of Lords, there is also a case for retaining the current arrangements, allowing the Prime Minister to make up to 10 appointments per Parliament.

You what, Jack?

It would help improve understanding between the House of Lords and the government as a whole by permitting the Prime Minister to bypass any semblance of democratic process and insert his personal cronies directly into the legislature, not simply as members but as Ministers, as he sees fit?

You really have got to be kidding this time, haven’t you?

We’re not just talking about allowing a Prime Minister to side-step the entire democratic process of Parliament but, in the context of a Labour Prime Minister, also granting them the privilege of disregarded his own party’s internal democratic processes and for what? So we can be lorded over by - in the context of Tony Blair -  the likes of his ex-room mate, Charlie Falconer, his former tutor, Derry Irvine, and his pet policy wonk (and former member of the SDP and Liberal Democrat Councillor) Andrew Adonis.

Check your membership card, Jack, I’m pretty sure mine still says that we are a ‘democratic socialist party’, or do Minister and Members of Parliament get a different membership card; one that omits that particular little detail.

And as for there being a case for retaining the current arrangements, allowing the Prime Minister to make up to 10 appointments per Parliament, if there is such a case, what is it exactly?

You don’t appear to say at all, other to state that there is a case, which knowing how such things work in practice, rather suggests not that there isn’t a case but that actually putting the case forward would let the public in on one or two fairly common, if unofficial, parliamentary practices that they might not see as playing entirely straight with the electorate - not least of which the little matter of using peerages as an inducement for older MPs to vacate their nice safe seat just before a general election (and too late in the day for their CLP to conduct a full and democratic selection process) thereby enabling the party hierarchy to parachute one of the Party Leader’s favoured supporters into a more or less guaranteed seat in the next Parliament.

The most difficult  aspect of considering Jack proposals for the near unabridged continuation of Prime Minsterial patronage is trying to find words to adequately express the contempt these proposals deserve without resorting to a stream of invective rearely heard outside of a half-time team talk given by Peter Reid.

If this were all the government was trying to push through without any pretence of conducting and open oand genuine public debate it would be bad enough, but as I noted at the beginning of this article, there is also the little matter of the Joint Select Committee on Conventions to bring into play and its planned reforms to some of the practicalities of the working relationship between the Commons and the Lords to factor into the overall reform equation.

One can get a decent general feel for work of this committee simply by noting that but for evidence taken from three academics, one of whom is also a member of the House of Lords, the committee has otherwise taken evidence only from individuals drawn from within the confines of the Westminster Villiage; specifically the Leaders of the House of Commons and House of Lords and the government’s Chief Whip in the Lords, their Shadow (i.e. Tory) counterparts, the Lib Dem’s Leader of the House of Commons and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords and the two most senior Parliamentary Clerks.

Again, there has been no public debate on matters of considerable consitutional significance.

One can get an even better feel from the evidence transcripts and, in particular, the obsequious and self congratulatory tone of the opening exchange between the Chair of the Committee - Lord (formerly Jack) Cunningham of Felling - and the government’s chief ‘witness’, Jack Straw…

Q1 Chairman: Gentlemen, good morning. Thank you for responding so promptly to the request of the Committee to come before us and thank you also for getting the memorandum you submitted to us in good time for the Committee to have the opportunity to study it thoroughly. We have given you an indication of how we as a Committee would like to deal with this session and we hope that we can conclude the business by noon. I know you, Mr Straw, have an important engagement that you have to leave for shortly after that. We may subsequently ask you to come back and answer further questions or give further evidence depending how the Committee’s proceedings fall out - I do not mean fall out in the argumentative sense. Jack, I understand you would like to make an opening statement - it is very difficult for me to call you Mr Leader of the House of Commons.

Mr Straw: It is even more difficult for me to call you Lord Chairman, however since I learnt everything I know from you I will do my best, Chairman. On behalf of Lord Falconer, Lord Grocott and myself can I say we are very grateful to you and your Committee for this early invitation to give evidence.

It would appear, from that, inadvisable for either party to bend over in the presence of the other without first checking their rectal capacity…

The purpose of this committee was/is (it hasn’t reported as yet) to consider whether it may be necessary to codify four specific unwritten parlaimentay conventions as follows…

SALISBURY-ADDISON CONVENTION

The Salisbury-Addison convention is described in the report of the Royal Commission on the Reform of the House of Lords (Cm 4534, 2000) as "an understanding that a ‘manifesto’ Bill, foreshadowed in the governing party’s most recent election manifesto and passed by the House of Commons, should not be opposed by the second chamber on Second or Third Reading." (paragraph 4.21) The convention is also suggested to include the principle that the Lords will not pass wrecking amendments to such a Bill.

1. Is this an accurate description of the convention? Is it sufficiently comprehensive?

2. Can "manifesto bills" be properly identified? Is a manifesto an appropriate basis for codification?

3. Have there been any breaches of convention in this area?

4. How can the convention be codified? If it is codified, how can it be enforced?

SECONDARY LEGISLATION

House of Lords conventions in relation to the Commons on secondary legislation are currently codified thus in the Companion to the Standing Orders and Guide to the Proceedings of the House of Lords (2005):

"The House of Lords has only occasionally rejected delegated legislation. The House has resolved ‘That this House affirms its unfettered freedom to vote on any subordinate legislation submitted for its consideration’." (paragraph 8.02)

5. Is this an accurate codification? Is it adequate?

6. Have there been breaches of convention in this area?

7. Is there a convention that the House of Lords does not reject delegated legislation, with perhaps definable exceptions? Does it depend on prior warning, perhaps when the enabling legislation was considered? Does it depend on whether the Commons have already approved the instrument in question? Does it depend on the views of the scrutiny committees?

8. If there is such a convention, how could it be codified? In its codified form, how could it be enforced?

9. Would codification have indirect consequences in practice? For instance, might it make the House of Lords less willing to create new delegated powers?

10. Do different considerations apply to certain categories of order, eg those subject to "super-affirmative" procedure?

The issue of rendering delegated legislation amendable by Parliament is outside the remit of this committee.

REASONABLE TIME

The convention that Government business in the Lords should be considered in reasonable time is not currently codified, save that it appears in the report of the Royal Commission and the first report of the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform (HL Paper 17, HC 171, Session 2002-03).

11. Is there such a convention?

12. Has it been breached?

13. Could it be codified? In its codified form, how could it be enforced?

The Labour manifesto for the last General Election contained a commitment to "legislate to place reasonable limits on the time bills spend in the second chamber - no longer than 60 sitting days for most bills".

14. Would codification of the convention in the form of a statutory time limit be practical? How could it be enforced? What would be its practical consequences, including indirect consequences?

15. Would 60 sitting days be a practical limit? If not, what time would?

16. Would there need to be provision for exceptions, or for extending the time limit? How could this work?

EXCHANGE OF AMENDMENTS ("PING-PONG")

Ping-pong is a shorthand way of describing the procedures used by both Houses for dealing with amendments proposed to legislation by the other House.

17. What would be the consequences of codifying ping-pong?

18. What would codification cover?

19. Is codification necessary?

20. What effect has packaging of Lords amendments had on the operation of ping-pong?

21. How far can the Lords push ping-pong before the practice is considered to have been pushed too far?

Alternative procedures, eg reconciliation committees, are outside the scope of this inquiry.

All of which looks rather technical and arcane - as does the evidence from all parties, if one has the patience, temperament and artificial stimulants necessary to read it - but then as is often the case in Parliament, it is within the most arcane matters that governments attempt to conceal the most important issues.

Take the first issue, that of Salisbury-Addison Convention which holds that the opposition parties in the House of Lords should not vote down or apply wrecking amendments to manifesto bills and has become an issue largely due to the concerted opposition of the House of Lords to the passage of the Identity Cards Act 2006, particularly in terms of insistance on interpreting the use of term ‘voluntary’ in Labour Manifesto statement on this matter in a far more literal manner that that the government wished to apply…

Across the world there is a drive to increase the security of identity documents and we cannot be left behind. From next year we are introducing biometric ‘ePassports’. It makes sense to provide citizens with an equally secure identity card to protect them at home from identity theft and clamp down on illegal working and fraudulent use of public services.We will introduce ID cards, including biometric data like fingerprints, backed up by a national register and rolling out initially on a voluntary basis as people renew their passports.

As clearly noted here by both Jack Straw and Charlie Falconer…

Mr Straw:

… what Salisbury-Addison was about was respecting the democratic authority of the House of Commons and acknowledging that governments have broad manifestoes and it was for the Lords, yes, to scrutinise and revise legislation but not to operate in such a way that the democratic authority of the Commons was sabotaged. That required a respect of the spirit in which a manifesto was put forward as well as of its detailed letter. That is shown very clearly by the brevity of manifestoes - and the same is true of the Conservative and Liberal Parties in 1945 - from which they were working….

… If their Lordships were to get to a point where they were saying, "Hang on, on page 51 it says this and this Bill says that, although the Bill is about the same thing, we disagree you have a mandate", I think that undermines the spirit of the Salisbury-Addison Convention. Of course that is what happened in respect of the Identity Cards Bill we would suggest.

Lord Falconer of Thoroton:

The Salisbury-Addison Convention would not be convincing if it depended on a very fine reading of each individual manifesto. I am quite sure Jack is right when he says manifestoes are not getting longer because of concerns about the Salisbury-Addison Convention, but the essence of the Convention is having gone to the people and being elected to form a government through your majority in the Commons, it will be completely wrong that precisely what the powers of the Lords are depends on a very, very fine reading of the manifesto. It also means to some extent the Chairman’s point, you do not want to start putting into manifestoes pages and pages to cover the Lords’ points. That is why I think what Jack is saying is so accurate, it needs to be a general sensible reading both of what is in the manifesto and broadly what the government stands for in determining what is covered by it.

What is most noticable about the lengthy and often arcane debate that follows is that nowhere is the fundamental question of the relationship of the electorate to party manifestos ever questioned.

There is, running through the entire discussion,  a presumption that a vote for particular political party amounts to full and unequivocal support for the entire contents of its manifesto irrespective of whether a particular proposal occupies two pages of text or two lines, even though at one point it is clearly acknowledged that the majority of voters simply don’t read manifestos at all.

The central bone of contention here is whether a government can claim a mandate for policies included in its election manifesto sufficient to quosh all notion of anything but token opposition in in the House of Lords, not just any policy but all policies whether or not there is any evidence of actual public support for the specifics of that policy or whether the manifesto lays out that policy is sufficient detail to enable voters to make an informed decision as to whether it deserve their support or not.

Choice, so it seems, is a good thing so long as it does does not apply to political manifestos, where one is required simply to take it or leave it.

It is manifestly absurd to suggest that political parties obtain votes in elections on the basis that each voter is in full and unequivocal agreement with every single line of its manifesto. Party’s cannot guarantee that of their own membership let alone of the electorate as a whole, and yet in the context of the Salisbury-Addison convention that is precisely the position that both Straw and Falconer profess to not only true but sufficiently true to merit its codification as a written principle of the British constitution.

The manifesto provisions for the introduction of Identity Cards are in no way sufficient to encompass the full scope of the Act and its impact of the relationship between the citizen and the state, which is why it was so hotly constested throughout its passage through Parliament, and yet in view of Jack Straw and Charlie Falconer, that brief manifesto statement is justification for the government to have its way in both Houses without any real measure of opposition and without providing any further evidence of public support for that particular measure - not that the latter would have made any real difference as the entire passage of the Act was accompanied by little else but obfuscatation, misinformation and economies of truth.

This general air of political hubris is to be found in each of the questions that the committee was tasked in reporting on. On secondary legislation, which receives far less Parliamentary scrutiny (and far less attention)  than full Parliamentary bills, the committee is asked…

Is there a convention that the House of Lords does not reject delegated legislation, with perhaps definable exceptions? Does it depend on prior warning, perhaps when the enabling legislation was considered? Does it depend on whether the Commons have already approved the instrument in question? Does it depend on the views of the scrutiny committees?

Before one asks that question, should one not first be asking whether the government’s use of enabling bills and delegated powers to regulate by secondary legislation is being undertaken appropriately and only when necessary/relevant - the Identity Cards Act, alone, confers 61 seperate new regulatory powers on the Home Secretary, while the Legislative & Regulatory Reform Bill, if passed unamended, would grant ministers near unlimited powers to amend legislation without the necessity of a full Parliamentary Bill up and including almost every single piece of constitutional and civil liberties legislation on the statute book.

Do we either want or need legislation that could be used to suspend fundamental rights, such as Habeas Corpus and Trial by Jury by means of secondary legislation?

On the subject of both the Lords considering government bills in ‘reasonable time’ and the practice of parliamentary ‘ping-pong’, should we not first be looking at the processes of the House of Commons and the general quality of legislation that is being referred to the Lords for scrutiny before we consider seeking to limit the time they are allowed to perform that function.

Overall, it is widely felt that the general standard of legislation - in terms of how well it is written - has fallen considerably over the as a direct result both of government’s pursuing packed legislative programmes and the extensive use of the parliamentary gulliotine to curtail debate in the House of Commons. There is too much legislation and too little time for it be given proper consideration in the Commons and, as inevitably happens in such situations, standards suffer as a result.

Knowing that, where is the sense in seeking to limit the time alloted to a revising chamber for the scrutiny of legislation? Does it not follow logically that such a course of action will only make matters worse?

Not, it seems, according to the current government?

If one looks at the track record of this present government and at the extent to it has actively pursued measures that have both centralised more and more authority on the exectutive and weakened even the ability of Parliament to scrutinse its activities - to give but one example take a good look at the Inquiries Act 2005, which amongst other things alters the entire basis upon which public inquries are conducted to place them solely and exclusively under the control of Ministers even to the extent that such inquiries no longer report directly to the House of Commons - then one has to seriously question whether the underlying purpose of these reforms is not to improve the legislative process but to merely remove even more barriers and limitations on the power of executive to exercise political authority without adequate restraint or scrutiny.

Or rather one would pose such a question were Parliament to permit such matters to be the subject of proper public debate.

A far more experienced man than I, namely Brian Barder, has his own choice words for Straw’s proposals, which are, as ever, well worth the investment of time required to read them…

Jack Straw’s proposals for ‘reforming’ the House of Lords, contained in a long document leaked at the weekend to the Sunday Times and available on its website, are a tepid, boneless, pathetic bit of fudge (to mix several metaphors).

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And finally, the story of two (allegedly) former BNP members caught with bomb-making equipment two weeks ago starts to make the national press… sort of…

At the time of writing, ITV news has the story in a sideblock on its main news page, while leading with John Reid’s plans for pandering to the xenophobia of the right wing press, um, restricting the the number of Romanians and Bulgarians allowed to work in the UK after their country’s join the EU.

Over at the Beeb, there’s nothing on therr main news page, which leads with Reid (again), nor on the main UK news page. One has to go to the main news page for England and look down the page under ‘More News from around England’ to find the story, which gets second billing under ‘North’, while the top story in this section is Bradford Council’s new guidelines, which advise schools to ban the wearing of the niqab in class.

Both pieces are entirely perfunctory statements of fact, as befits the reporting of proceedings that are now sub judice.

As for the papers…?

Well, aside from an appearance in the Times’ ‘News in Brief’ section on the weekend after the story first broke - nothing as yet…

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…then you should watch Keith Olbermann’s comment on Bush and the Military Commission Act...

(hat tip - Chicken Yoghurt)

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Anyone remember this story from a couple of weeks ago?

BRAVE HEROES HOUNDED OUT

By JULIE MOULT, JAMIE PYATT and TOM REILLY
October 07, 2006
 
MUSLIM yobs who wrecked a house to stop four brave soldiers moving in after returning from Afghanistan sparked outrage last night.

The house in a village near riot-torn Windsor had BRICKS thrown through windows and was DAUBED with messages of hate.

Four young Household Cavalry officers who had planned to rent it were also the target of phone THREATS.

They were yesterday forced to look elsewhere to live — after top brass warned them against inflaming racial violence near the Queen’s Windsor Castle home.

It’s from The Scum of course - who could possibly fail to recognise their unmistakeable style even before one reads on to discover that…

Louts struck two days after the four arrived in uniform in an Army Land Rover to view it.

The source said: “A gang of local Muslims set about keeping them away. They hurled bricks through the windows and then wrote offensive graffiti across the front of the house.” The vile messages included one in 4ft letters on the drive — warning: “F*** off”.

Sources inside Windsor’s Combermere Barracks — where the officers are based — confirmed Muslims had made calls threatening the men.

Well, that clinches, it doesn’t? Sources inside the very barracks where the men are based actually confimed that Muslims had made calls threatening the men…

With news like that that, who could be surprised to find that Shadow immigation minister, Damian Green (MP for Ashford, Kent), thought that this was a "shocking development", while another Tory rent-a-mouth, Philip Davies, (MP for Shipley, Yorkshire) is reported to have said…

“This is outrageous…"

“If there’s anybody who should f*** off it’s the Muslims who are doing this kind of thing. Police should pull out the stops to track down these vile thugs.”

Strangely enough, when it was looking for comments on this story, The Scum appears not have bothered to contact the MP for Windsor, Berkshire, the actual constitutency in which this attack took place, which would be fairly normal practice… perhaps The Scum were a little less certain as to the reaction they’d get from Adam Afriyie MP.

There is, as the more perceptive amongst might have guessed, just one minor little problem with this story…

…its a pile of complete and utter bullshit!

‘No religion was labelled’ responsible for vandalism

Oct 13 2006

REPORTS that soldiers were driven out of a Berkshire village by racists have been disputed by Thames Valley Police.

In last week’s Express we reported that four soldiers returning from active service in Afghanistan had decided not to move into a house in Datchet.

Their decision followed the discovery of obscenities painted on the front of the house that they were due to move into in Montagu Road, Datchet, last week.

The soldiers also discovered that several of the windows had been broken.

An MoD source told the Express last week there had been phone calls made to Combermere Barracks in Windsor where the soldiers were stationed.

The caller said that the soldiers were not welcome because houses in the road are expensive - around £600,000 - and that the soldiers presence might lower property values.

Newspaper reports claimed that the obscenities and vandalism were the work of Muslims.

The report claimed this was the view of detectives investigating the incident.

Thames Valley Police have now said they are not pursing this line of inquiry. Detective Chief Inspector Stephen Reschwamm said: "This incident was reported in a national newspaper reports, alleging that Muslim youths were responsible for causing the damage to stop four soldiers moving in.

"I would like to emphasise that, although one of our initial lines of inquiry was to consider possible racially aggravated circumstances, we never labelled any particular faith or religion as being responsible."

He added: "Inquiries carried out to date conclude that there is no evidence to suggest that this was racially motivated. The MoD has also informed me that Combermere Barracks did not receive any threatening calls from Muslims or people claiming to be Muslims in relation to this incident."

So the actual story here turns out not be about roving gangs of Muslim youths victimising ‘our brave lads’ but about a bit of vigilante action by one of the local snobs who thinks that having ’squaddies’, even the kind that have been to Sandhurst and serve in a premier cavalry regiment, living in their street will only lower the tone of the area.

And the views of the local Muslim community in Datchet on this?

Well who could say what the 35 Pakistanis and 5 Bangladeshis shown as residing in Datchet in the 2001 Census make of it all other to suggest that the very idea of a ‘gang of Muslim youths in the area in question seems just a tad unlikely as there doesn’t appear to be enough idenitifiably Muslim residents in the area to actually qualify as a ‘gang’…

…although maybe whoever it was who claims to have seen a gang of ‘local Muslims’ vandalise the house got a bit confused as it was actually local Indians who carried out the attack - there was 194 of them in the town according to the 2001 census and they probably ‘all look the same’ to the anonymous ‘witness’ whoever it actually was.

Assuming, of course, that this ‘witness’ doesn’t turn out to be the perpetrator of the attack and the story about the involvement of Muslim youths merely a lie to direct the attention of the Police away from those who were really responsible.

No, that couldn’t be right could it. Datchet is apparently only a mile or so from Windsor Castle and houses on Montagu Road, where the attack took place, are selling for something in the region of £600,000. These are hard-working pillars of the local community of good British stock, they wouldn’t go about getting involved in anything so tawdry as petty vandalism and attempting to pervert the course of justice, would they?

Still, seeing as The Scum’s as-yet-unamended-to-reflect-the truth article kindly includes an email address for the lead reporter, Julie Moult, I thought I’d take the time to point out that there appears to be a problem or two with her story…

Julie,

Regarding your story about the vandalism of a house in Datchet, which you reported as an attack by Muslims seeking to prevent a group of Army Officers moving in to the area, presumably you’re now aware that the whole ‘Muslim angle’ to the story has turned out be a complete load of rubbish.

If not, then this report may illuminate matters for you -

[link to icBerkshire story]

- sorry it is a week old, but I’ve only just noticed it myself.

Given that the police have now indicated that the attack was not racially motivated and was not carried out by Muslims and that it appears that it was, in fact, motivated by ‘fears’ that the presence of solidiers in the area might affect local property values, which is probably not a major concern for the identifiable Muslim ‘community’ of the area that, according to the 2001 Census, amounts to a total of 35 Pakistanis and 5 Bangladeshis, are you now considering publishing a retraction of this story, or at least amending it as it appears on your website to reflect the informating that has emerged since its publication?

Regards.

I await her response with considerable interest, particular having discovered this little report in the Media Guadian dated a mere two days after the Datchet story…

Veiled byline
The Sun’s Anila Baig could be forgiven for being a bit miffed this morning, and not just because passport control didn’t check under her veil at Leeds-Bradford airport. Her efforts to "reveal how shockingly easy it is to breach airport security - wearing a Muslim-style veil" is described on today’s front page as an "Exclusive by Julie Moult". Baig has to wait for her byline until page nine.

Curiously enough, while Baig’s story still appears on The Scum’s website, Julie’s front page ‘exclusive’ is nowhere to be found…

Should I get a reply from Julie, you will, of course, be able to read it here…

Oh, about the title of this piece, its by an obscure writer(?) by the name of ‘Barson Maith’ of whom posterity appears aware only because the verse from which the line is taken was included by Ambrose Bierce in his defintion of ‘Reporter’ in his Devil’s Dictionary.

REPORTER, n.
A writer who guesses his way to the truth and dispels it with a tempest of words.

"More dear than all my bosom knows, O thou
Whose ‘lips are sealed’ and will not disavow!"
So sang the blithe reporter-man as grew
Beneath his hand the leg-long "interview."

                                                                                Barson Maith

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