Comments on: Plagiarising Polly… http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/ VoilĂ ! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:10:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Chris http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10842 Chris Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:48:28 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10842 Debi Jones looks like a sausage with eyes. Debi Jones looks like a sausage with eyes.

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By: septicisle http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10841 septicisle Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:39:47 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10841 The problem with Toynbee's point though is that Labour is so utterly bereft of genuinely excellent women politicians - the ones who have the "power" are either hopeless or robots, Tessa Jowell, Hazel Blears, Patricia Hewitt, Margaret Beckett, et al. About the only one who has something about her is Harriet Harman, and she's buried back in a job where no one notices her. Maybe that will change once Brown ascends, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The problem with Toynbee’s point though is that Labour is so utterly bereft of genuinely excellent women politicians - the ones who have the “power” are either hopeless or robots, Tessa Jowell, Hazel Blears, Patricia Hewitt, Margaret Beckett, et al. About the only one who has something about her is Harriet Harman, and she’s buried back in a job where no one notices her. Maybe that will change once Brown ascends, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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By: Hawthorne http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10838 Hawthorne Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:07:38 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10838 It is always more difficult for a man to advance 'women's' issues, what matters most to mothers is that there children are taught well, are safe and are in good health. What matters most to female graduates is having the same opportunities as male graduates. I think there is slightly too much emphasis on women's issues, ethnic, religious, etc. IF it is accepted that all British citizens ought to be treated as equally as possible in law, which I believe is the situation we have at the moment, then really most people are more concerned with general policy which affects us all equally. As for vote Conservative for vapid sound bites and Labour for self-advancement, that seems a bit of a reach, you a merely using the arguments of two fairly polemic writers (to the opposite side) extended as representative of the parties. The average age of the 8 women in the cabinet is 54. As with all these sorts of cultural shifts a time lag is most definetly in place, all these baby boomers were growing up in a time when women were just starting to work properly after the changes WW2 brought. The children of the 70's and 80's won't be as prevalent in British Politics until 2015 at least. So Polly will be able to talk of our Hillary Clinton in the foreseeable future. Besides we have already had our Thatcher, from here on out parties are coy enough to pick the best person for the job, I don't think many MP's or Party Members would have a problem with a women Leader, its just what their policies are and whether they think they can win. And if that's the case then our culture is doing alright, maybe could be better but its on the right track. It is always more difficult for a man to advance ‘women’s’ issues, what matters most to mothers is that there children are taught well, are safe and are in good health. What matters most to female graduates is having the same opportunities as male graduates. I think there is slightly too much emphasis on women’s issues, ethnic, religious, etc. IF it is accepted that all British citizens ought to be treated as equally as possible in law, which I believe is the situation we have at the moment, then really most people are more concerned with general policy which affects us all equally. As for vote Conservative for vapid sound bites and Labour for self-advancement, that seems a bit of a reach, you a merely using the arguments of two fairly polemic writers (to the opposite side) extended as representative of the parties.
The average age of the 8 women in the cabinet is 54. As with all these sorts of cultural shifts a time lag is most definetly in place, all these baby boomers were growing up in a time when women were just starting to work properly after the changes WW2 brought. The children of the 70’s and 80’s won’t be as prevalent in British Politics until 2015 at least. So Polly will be able to talk of our Hillary Clinton in the foreseeable future. Besides we have already had our Thatcher, from here on out parties are coy enough to pick the best person for the job, I don’t think many MP’s or Party Members would have a problem with a women Leader, its just what their policies are and whether they think they can win. And if that’s the case then our culture is doing alright, maybe could be better but its on the right track.

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By: Hamer http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10830 Hamer Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:21:27 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10830 Nice one Unity. Nice one Unity.

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By: Katherine http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10826 Katherine Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:03:18 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/04/27/plagiarising-polly/#comment-10826 It'll be a cold day in hell before I vote for either of them. Sorry. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I vote for either of them. Sorry.

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