Comments on: Deputy Leadership: Analysis of Results. http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/ VoilĂ ! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:48:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Unity http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20760 Unity Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:41:57 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20760 <p>And anyway - shouldn't you be out working Ealing Southall?</p> And anyway - shouldn’t you be out working Ealing Southall?

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By: Unity http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20759 Unity Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:41:22 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20759 Let's just see how long she survives without Blair to look out for her. Let’s just see how long she survives without Blair to look out for her.

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By: Luke Akehurst http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20758 Luke Akehurst Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:19:39 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-20758 "Blears - off the backbenches one suspects" was a bit wide of the mark wasn't it? I guess Gordon's view of Hazel is nearer to mine than your's. “Blears - off the backbenches one suspects” was a bit wide of the mark wasn’t it?

I guess Gordon’s view of Hazel is nearer to mine than your’s.

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By: Little Black Sambo http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19809 Little Black Sambo Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:11:43 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19809 What do any of these people matter? Silver rings are far more interesting. What do any of these people matter? Silver rings are far more interesting.

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By: Laura http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19798 Laura Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:33:01 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19798 Excellent, very thoughtful analysis, particularly the summary at the end. I did though, know a handful of people who went Blears - 1, Cruddas - 2, contrary to your suggestion that it was simply Blears or nothing voters that caused the small switch to Jon. The rationale behind this was party-building. Whatever your policy disagreements with Blears (and I have many - she didn't get a preference from me), she understands the party and the need to rebuild. Likewise so does Jon and he also put it central to his campaign. Interested in what you say about FH and Bevan and Morrison, prompting me to rethink my holiday reading. Excellent, very thoughtful analysis, particularly the summary at the end.

I did though, know a handful of people who went Blears - 1, Cruddas - 2, contrary to your suggestion that it was simply Blears or nothing voters that caused the small switch to Jon. The rationale behind this was party-building. Whatever your policy disagreements with Blears (and I have many - she didn’t get a preference from me), she understands the party and the need to rebuild. Likewise so does Jon and he also put it central to his campaign.

Interested in what you say about FH and Bevan and Morrison, prompting me to rethink my holiday reading.

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By: Guano http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19739 Guano Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:27:46 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19739 How many votes do those percentages actually represent? How many votes do those percentages actually represent?

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By: Neil Craig http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19731 Neil Craig Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:06:49 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19731 Harmen clearly tipped the scales on the "we should have a woman" vote - since many people would have, for the sake of political correctness put one somewhere on their preference list. The other thing that may have helped her was her statement on Newsnight that we should have an apology for the war, which she, immediately after winning, says officially says never happened. I must admit I find that sickening - Orwell would have understood. Fixing the housing crisis is not necesarily a left wing issue. The Barker Reort & common sense, show that the only way of fixing the housing shortage is building them. Whether that is done by the state or merely by the state removing controls & allowing the private sector to build. One option is left 7 the other right. Harmen clearly tipped the scales on the “we should have a woman” vote - since many people would have, for the sake of political correctness put one somewhere on their preference list.

The other thing that may have helped her was her statement on Newsnight that we should have an apology for the war, which she, immediately after winning, says officially says never happened. I must admit I find that sickening - Orwell would have understood.

Fixing the housing crisis is not necesarily a left wing issue. The Barker Reort & common sense, show that the only way of fixing the housing shortage is building them. Whether that is done by the state or merely by the state removing controls & allowing the private sector to build. One option is left 7 the other right.

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By: epsilon http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19282 epsilon Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:15:14 +0000 http://www.ministryoftruth.org.uk/2007/06/25/deputy-leadership-analysis-of-results/#comment-19282 Firstly, Unity, can I congratulate you on not commenting on the election at all throughout the campaign-unlike other bloggers. I put myself on the Right of the Party- but declined to give Blears a preference. Why? Because it was clear that she would offer only 'Blairism without Blair'. I was one of the people who believed in Blairism- but it was right for its time. That time is not now. I hope the Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the Lords awaits this lady- she has no career left in the Commons. And, on many occasions, I noted how her supporters were 'Blears or nothing'...she looked like turning amongst her fanbase into a female David Owen. I split my vote between Hain/Harman/Cruddas in that order. Peter was a radical arguably before the Party was; a stalwart anti-apartheid campaigner[a founder member of ANL, Jon...] and a vigorous and irreplaceable part of peace in Northern Ireland and devolution in Wales. I hope he stays in post. Jon only won my third preference through reading this blog and others like it. It was obvious that he would not win, but he had the grassroots support in the Midlands alone that converted me. He will make an excellent inaugeral Secretary of State for Housing..I hope he notes that places like Lincolnshire and north Shropshire are empty enough to build new 'eco-towns'. Harriet was the vote of my head if Peter was the vote of my heart. Her ability to please middle-class women, the union rank-and-file, the public servants that we depend on and the forces of human rights, freedom and democracy meant she ticked many of the boxes we will need to win in 2009 [or 2008?]. She will be a superb Deputy Leader and Party Chair. A good day for democracy and a great day for democratic socialism. Tom Watson for Cabinet? I do hope so. Stranger things have happened. Firstly, Unity, can I congratulate you on not commenting on the election at all throughout the campaign-unlike other bloggers.

I put myself on the Right of the Party- but declined to give Blears a preference. Why? Because it was clear that she would offer only ‘Blairism without Blair’. I was one of the people who believed in Blairism- but it was right for its time. That time is not now. I hope the Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the Lords awaits this lady- she has no career left in the Commons. And, on many occasions, I noted how her supporters were ‘Blears or nothing’…she looked like turning amongst her fanbase into a female David Owen.

I split my vote between Hain/Harman/Cruddas in that order. Peter was a radical arguably before the Party was; a stalwart anti-apartheid campaigner[a founder member of ANL, Jon…] and a vigorous and irreplaceable part of peace in Northern Ireland and devolution in Wales. I hope he stays in post.

Jon only won my third preference through reading this blog and others like it. It was obvious that he would not win, but he had the grassroots support in the Midlands alone that converted me. He will make an excellent inaugeral Secretary of State for Housing..I hope he notes that places like Lincolnshire and north Shropshire are empty enough to build new ‘eco-towns’.

Harriet was the vote of my head if Peter was the vote of my heart. Her ability to please middle-class women, the union rank-and-file, the public servants that we depend on and the forces of human rights, freedom and democracy meant she ticked many of the boxes we will need to win in 2009 [or 2008?]. She will be a superb Deputy Leader and Party Chair.

A good day for democracy and a great day for democratic socialism.

Tom Watson for Cabinet? I do hope so. Stranger things have happened.

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